Observation 19320: Tubaria punicea (A.H. Sm. & Hesler) Ammirati, Matheny & P.-A. Moreau
When: 2009-03-08
Who: martystu
No herbarium specimen

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Synonym?
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-03-11 09:46:20 PDT (-0700)

Um, where did the synonym info come from? This isn’t true from the paper that I have, “Taxonomy of displaced species of Tubaria”, P. Matheny et al., Mycologia 99(4), 2007, pp569-585.

Here T. punicea and T. vinicolor are two different species separated by molecular study. The descriptions seem to be rather similar, same spores, and for the most part very similar cystidia. Given that Tubaria spores are so soft and boring this isn’t much of a surprise.

They say that the habitat is different for these, and that will separate them in the field for the west coast of America. With T. punicea mostly on rotting madrone stumps, and T. vinicolor near introduced trees with disturbed ground.

It sounds like T. punicea is the more common one on the west coast here. They looked at stuff from Canada mostly, and only a couple from CA.

Any news on where these might be found? Were they on a madrone stump, or rotting madrone? (Or near enough? They also mention mixed madrone, d. fir, and oak as habitat where it is found.)

exquisite color on these…must’ve been thrilling to find!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-03-11 08:10:56 PDT (-0700)
Nice -
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-03-10 17:19:41 PDT (-0700)

Looks roughly right, and looks to be the closest obs. of these on this site. Seems to be a rare group. I’ll try to look up my copy of the reddish Tubaria paper when I get home.

Do you have any more details here? How found, in what habitat, under what trees, was it on wood, on the ground, in moss? Also more details on spores, do you have a photo or drawing of spores? A rough size for spores?

You should try and dry these, and we should keep them somewhere, since they seem to be such a rare thing to find…

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