Observation 195167: Hericium coralloides (Scop.) Pers.
When: 2014-12-29
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Hericium sp. growing in oak habitat. Forgot to check the species of tree it was growing from, however the tree was apparently well rotted.

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Most of my sources…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2015-01-01 23:21:24 CST (-0500)

are field guides which use names that have been replaced. I also use Mushroom Expert quite often. Although many of the names here hav also been replaced. My primary means of keeping track of updated names is by interacting here at MO! Actually, I’m sorta hoping someone who is more up-to-date on these Hericium names will weigh in with a comment.

As for this obs, the spines look to be rather short, <= 1 cm judging from the small overall size of the fruit body. And the spines appear to not be clustered into thick groups, instead hanging in rows from branches. These traits remind me of what I have been calling coralloides.

By: Joe Soeller (slephy)
2015-01-01 19:50:14 CST (-0500)

Ah thanks Dave. Yeah, it’s time to name this puppy. Dave I’d like some access to references for my own understanding, what sources are you using for your names?

I’m not familiar with H. abietis.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2015-01-01 19:05:56 CST (-0500)

From what I have gathered from online observations, this appears to be a western NA species. Photos labeled abietis that I’ve seen show a Hericium that looks like this one, sorta a cross between what I’d call americanum and the “comb tooth” which I have been calling corolloides. However, there seems to be some question about the application of the name corolloides to any NA material, as this is a European name.

Oak habitat seems to rule out abietis.

Mushroom Expert lists the NA range of americanum as “east of the Great Plains.”

Seems to me that the application of these various species names may be currently unsettled.

By: Joe Soeller (slephy)
2015-01-01 18:17:18 CST (-0500)

I’m under the impression H. abietis grows on conifers. This was in an oak habitat, thus wouldn’t it lead to being H. coralloides?

There seems to be some confusion…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2014-12-31 00:23:06 CST (-0500)

surrounding the application of Hericium species names to North American material. Kuo differentiates between the short-spined H. coralloides and the longer-spined H. americanum, which he says only occurs in NA east of the Rockies. Some other western NA Hericium observations on MO have been called H. abietis.

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