Observation 19563: Hygrophorus camarophyllus (Alb. & Schwein.) Dumée, Grandjean & Maire
When: 2009-01-24
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: Was kinda excited to see these. There are these two deep grey Hygrophorus sited in Largent’s Hygrophorus of CA, and each of them were listed from only one sample found. One is the H. marzuolus, which is usually found in the spring up in the Sierras. I’ve seen a few of these, and have a few dried samples. Then we also lists H. camarophyllus, from the caost in the fall. I’ve heard tell of these in the past, this is the first time I was able to get a photo and a dried sample.

One thing though, the H. marzoulus is a European name, and H. camarophyllus is from the east coast. I’m not sure either of these is really one of those. I’ve seen photos of H. marzoulus, and what we see is awfully like that. I’ve also seen photos of the east coast H. camarophyllus, and they really don’t look like these.

So, not sure here. The CA samples could be two different species, or the same, and they could be different from the east coast and Europe, or the same. I guess to “prove” it would take finding a distinct character to separate them, and examining the type specimens. Which is probably beyond me.

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I know H.marzuolus
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2009-03-19 12:33:43 PDT (-0700)

very well, it grows frequently near me. It can get very dark but I’ve never seen it with a pitch black hat. And this species although it resembles marzuolus seems to be quite different…how was the smell of it?

All described from Europe
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2009-03-19 04:02:37 PDT (-0700)

I can tell for sure that this is neither calophyllus nor camarophyllus.

I’m not really familiar with the spring species marzuolus (more than seen it in pictures and reading about it) which was first described from the italian alps – but I don’t think it gets as dark as this one.

If you want to search more among european names, there is also Hygrophorus atramentosus, a dark grey species with a hint of blue on the cap and in the darkening gills. It’s rare in Europe, known from rich spruce woods. Could be worth checking.

Hesler & Smith did describe a lot of waxcaps, but in their monography I can’t find any new american species in the section camarophylli with the right size and colour, so this one could just as well be undescribed.

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