Observation 19613: Cortinarius (Pers.) Gray
When: 2008-09-06
Collection location: McCall, Idaho, USA [Click for map]
No herbarium specimen

Proposed Names

18% (2)
Recognized by sight: it’s what Dimitar called it…
55% (1)
Recognized by sight: section Dermocybe.

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Oh, a foray id…
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2009-03-21 13:00:58 CDT (-0400)

Yes, I think I remember something. Late one night… wine was involved
too, as I seem to recall… I think I wrote that as a guidance to
someone to check it up on the microscope, but even if not so, at such
events there’s a tremendous rush to put names on everything. That’s
why foray ids need to be verified by hard evidence before being
immortalized on the Web. And I certainly don’t like to keep my head in
the sand at the face of good evidence. Of course, there are lots of
crazy ids all around at every fair and a few gems, so in general these
need to be reviewed critically at a convenient time. I took some
material with me after a couple of recent forays and wanted to change
the name, but the event was over. Yet, the Web pages stay and they
better have a good name.

Compare the collections of thiersii from the type collection area.


Thank you for bringing this one up.

You wrote it
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2009-03-21 09:49:19 CDT (-0400)

It was at the NAMA foray last fall, you wrote on the id slip “this is C. thiersii a croceus like species with larger spores”. I have the slip somewhere… I gave the collection to Ursula Pohl (to dye with) she may still have it.

Did I call it thiersii?
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2009-03-21 01:38:34 CDT (-0400)

Interesting — I was just about to ask you on what basis you call this
thiersii and I noticed that you quote me. I have no recollection of
doing such a terrible thing. When did I do that? Did I just suggested
the possibility, or said it firmly?

I wouldn’t call something thiersii unless it has been examined closer
— it is a larger croceus with larger spores, originally described
from Yuba Pass, California. Here is a page:


I could have…
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2009-03-20 20:52:56 CDT (-0400)

… confused the young specimens for Chroogomphus

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