Observation 196149: Ramaria myceliosa (Peck) Corner

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Ramaria myceliosa sensu auct. amer. non (Peck) Corner
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-01-18 11:16:15 PST (-0800)

The name Ramaria myceliosa (Peck) Corner (as well as Phaeoclavulina myceliosa (Peck) comb.prov.) obviously refer to Ramaria curta or a similar taxon and not to the usually larger and deeper yellow sporocarps that we filed on MO under the Ramaria myceliosa label. Until some more serious work has been done on those collections, I would use “Ramaria myceliosa sensu auct. amer. non (Peck) Corner” for this and other our MO observations. Never mind, the strict MO “naming” policies do not allow me to do that. Adolf

shaky nomenclatural ground …
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-01-18 08:58:35 PST (-0800)

citing an unpublished name AND an unpublished book that cites that unpublished name!

new release date for California Mushrooms is now June of 2015, and my review copy shows quite a few wrong names, even in the most cursory of reviews. Careful about those citations in advance of acceptance, let alone publication! OK to throw it up there as a potential future possibility of a name, but rather dishonest to vote it as an accepted name, yet.

WARNING!
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-01-17 17:50:24 PST (-0800)

Beware of a possible pitfall. Before you make a new combination Phaeoclavulina myceliosa (Peck) comb.prov., examine the type material of Clavaria myceliosa Peck.:

United States National Fungus Collections
Catalog #: BPI 293441
Taxon: Clavaria myceliosa Peck
Family: Clavariaceae
Type Status: ISOTYPE
Collector: Copeland E. B.
Date: 04 December 1902
Verbatim Date:1902 DEC 04
Locality: USA, California, Stanford Mountains Back of Stanford University

I had no time to follow this issue further, but the description of “Clavaria myceliosa”, p. 178, 179 in
http://www.mykoweb.com/...
fits more to Clavaria curta Fr., rather than to our MO # 196146. Without examining the type of Clavaria myceliosa you may end up with publishing the synonym (mind you, deprecated as soon as it will be published) of Phaeocluvulina curta (Fr.) Giachini.
Good luck,
Adolf

Apology
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-01-15 11:18:18 PST (-0800)

I apologize for putting unpublished names on our observations. We usually do it only in those cases, when there is no valid name available for that given taxon. In this case, we would prefer using Ramaria myceliosa. Adolf

I used Phaeoclavulina curta in my previous posting
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-01-14 08:49:38 PST (-0800)

I see that I used Phaeoclavulina curta (Fr.) Giachini
before:
http://mushroomobserver.org/73105
It is difficult to keep the naming and synonymy consistent and up to date throughout the ten year long macrofungal survey. In addition, it is difficult to accept generic splitting in some groups (e.g., this particular case) and follow the generic lumping in other groups (e.g., Entoloma s.latissimo). The hosting herbarium (UBC for us) faces the same dilemma. Adolf

It is better to go with Phaeoclavulina
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2015-01-13 20:21:45 PST (-0800)

Since it will be published that way in the new http://californiamushrooms.us book.

By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-01-13 20:13:21 PST (-0800)

Those two names are homotypic synonyms and both apply to the same species. I am cataloging our specimens for accessioning into the UBC herbarium and in the NA herbaria (see MyCoPortal) there are 85 specimens under Ramaria myceliosa and 0 (none) as Phaeoclavulina mycoliosa. For filing purposes it’s better to go with majority. Adolf

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