Observation 19874: Phellodon atratus K.A. Harrison
When: 2009-01-24
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Found under mixed conifer (maybe with tanoak?). Went back and forth on these for awhile. There are three (?) different ones that kinda match these, and there seems to be some arguments about range. Except there are a number of descriptions published it looks, and there is quite a bit of overlap on the descriptions, such that I’m not sure I could agree on a real way to split the species at all. After looking this over for awhile with Noah Siegel, kinda settled (gave up?) on this species for these.

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Sure fine with me…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-04-01 14:33:24 EDT (-0400)

Perhaps we should use P. atratus for the black and grey guys in the west, and P. melaleucus in the east and Europe? Looking over the desciptions I couldn’t really seem anything that stood out to differentiate the two, except that P. atratus was blue-black in KOH, and P. melaleucus was olive-brown in KOH. Then it seems to turn out that that doesn’t matter, so it is all the same to me in the end.

Same collection as
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2009-03-31 19:23:42 EDT (-0400)


I think that Irene is right that this is atratus

Why not Phellodon atratus?
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2009-03-31 16:34:11 EDT (-0400)

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