Observation 202462: Leratiomyces riparius (A.H. Smith) Redhead
When: 2015-04-04
No herbarium specimen

Notes:
OMS KP15-458
Collector: unknown
Original determination: Leratiomyces percevalii
Determiner: Richard Bishop

Proposed Names

4% (2)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight: Leratiomyces percevalii is only in Europe. L. riparius is a name from California.
-26% (3)
Recognized by sight

Please login to propose your own names and vote on existing names.

Eye3 = Observer’s choice
Eyes3 = Current consensus

Comments

Add Comment
Alan,
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2015-12-29 19:20:48 GMT (+0000)

do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

Yes, L. riparius is described from western NA (La Push, WA, not CA), but many woodchip species are cosmopolitan.
L. percevalii was described “from sawdust” in England, and for me, there is no reason to suspect that it’s not what we have in CA woodchip beds.

L. riparius habitat as described by Smith “Solitary to gregarious or subcespitose on soil under alder and species of Populus (cottonwood and small-toothed aspen),n moist places such as seepage areas and along streams, spring and fall, common in the aspen forests of the Rocky Mountains, and under cottonwood and alder in the Pacific Northwest”

This is not the habitat we see our Leratiomyces in.

View Observer ID is independent of herbarium specimen
By: Joe Cohen (Joseph D. Cohen)
2015-12-29 03:50:22 GMT (+0000)

Adolf:

The Preference setting “View Observer Identification of Observations?” is designed merely to show when the Observer’s determination differs from the consensus. It’s not intended to modify the consensus rules, and it’s independent of whether an Observation is supported by a herbarium specimen. As far as I know, it works fine for its intended purpose.

(One could use it to tell when the consensus differs from the name on the herbarium label. Of course, it’s up to you whether to use it that way.)

— Joe

Yes, it was an experiment
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-12-28 19:30:50 GMT (+0000)

I just wanted to show you that Consensus does not work with the MO Observations that are supported by the herbarium specimens. For thos observations, any change of the MO Observation name should be done by the person who holds the specimen. Otherwise, the MO Observation is in hands of all the mischievous users who are waiting for the oportunity to undermine MO. I did this as an example only but many uther MO users do it as a game.

Adolf’s vote
By: Joe Cohen (Joseph D. Cohen)
2015-12-28 18:51:26 GMT (+0000)

Alan:
At my suggestion, Adolf was experimenting with the interaction between the votes and User preferences. So his vote for L. percevalii is probably the result of that experiment.
— Joe

Created: 2015-04-08 23:35:41 BST (+0100)
Last modified: 2016-01-27 16:11:40 GMT (+0000)
Viewed: 122 times, last viewed: 2016-01-27 22:08:54 GMT (+0000)
Show Log