Observation 206603: Morchella snyderi M. Kuo & Methven
When: 2015-06-14
No herbarium specimen

Notes: These were found in a patch of Douglas fir mixed with aspen. Around 8000 Ft.

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Buttressed stipe
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2015-06-20 08:21:55 PDT (-0700)

Hi Debbie,

I Googled “buttressed stipe” to make sure I knew what you were talking about, and I found your morel page here:http://www.bayareamushrooms.org/...

Thank you for that informative resource. The base of the stipe of the mushroom in image 528031 is divided such that it resembles flying buttresses on a Gothic cathedral, and these morels do resemble the blond Morchella snyderi that Ron Pastorino posted from Yellowstone. I’m going to throw that name up as promising.

quite a few of our western morels are “cross-dressers!”
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-06-20 07:01:58 PDT (-0700)

in other words, even some black morels (aka Morchella elata clade) can show a blonde coloration at some point in their growth. M. tridentina is a western mountain black morel that stays blonde.

Are we confused, yet?

the sinus present in your morel depicted shows a black morel. If the stipe was more buttressed, I would have just called this M. snyderi, which can start out blondish, and even turn green!

Did any of your Utah morels show a buttressed stipe base, or did you cut them off to pick them, perhaps leaving that tell-tale feature in the ground?

more observations and speculations
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2015-06-19 23:56:03 PDT (-0700)

These mushrooms were growing under a canopy of tightly-packed, thin, tall, and, in my estimation, sickly-looking fir trees. All the lower branches up to 15 or so feet are dead, but the top several feet of each tree is dense with green needles, thus forming a continuous canopy that provides deep shade on an otherwise open sunny mountain top, where single trees and small patches of trees are separated by areas of meadow. This shady spot under the firs was devoid of grass or other herbaceous ground-cover vegetation. Aspens are interspersed with the firs, but they are less frequent and have thicker trunks. One live and one standing dead aspen were close enough that each might be associated with the morels, but I suspect the mycelium which produced these mushrooms is deriving its nutrition from the firs, either saprobicly on the many small fallen branches, or mycorrhizally.

Black and Gold morel
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2015-06-19 22:45:42 PDT (-0700)

In the top image just added, I used my hand to block distracting background clutter, so as to get better auto-focus on the mushroom. Serendipitously, hand for scale also provides a nice color reference (my hands are swine pink).

I don’t know whether to call this a black morel or a yellow morel, it’s more of a black and gold morel. The gross morphology also seems to be intermediate between what I call yellow morels and black morels in Ohio.

I have dried specimens for anybody who wants to have a closer look and post more information about these late season Utah black and gold morels.

Igor
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2015-06-15 15:11:32 PDT (-0700)

Your morels and these do look similar, but the trees are different, and the mushrooms were found on opposite sides of the world. Still, they might be the same species.

It looks the same as photos of observation # 205001 (?)
By: Igor (Igor_Yevdokimov)
2015-06-15 10:05:39 PDT (-0700)

It looks the same as photos of observation # 205001 (?)

Dinner…
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2015-06-15 10:01:12 PDT (-0700)

Definitely.

an eternal dilemma …
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-06-15 09:57:29 PDT (-0700)

voucher? or dinner?

I found the same species …
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2015-06-15 09:53:15 PDT (-0700)

this year. I will post photos momentarily.
They were in a high desert area.
Unfortunately I think they were all eaten.

I found the same species …
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2015-06-15 09:53:09 PDT (-0700)

this year. I will post photos momentarily.
They were in a high desert area.
Unfortunately I think they were all eaten.

the fact of that straight and even rather narrowed at the base stipe …
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-06-15 09:36:40 PDT (-0700)

makes this morel a puzzle.

it is likely that there are yet more unnamed morel species out there.

nice to see mushrooms from UT. Not a place I’d go to look, normally.

No Burn
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2015-06-15 09:25:36 PDT (-0700)

Thanks Richard, I was surprised to find Utah Morels!

Debbie, no this area has not been burned. I was hoping somebody here would recognize the species. These were a little past the edible stage when I found them, but I collected a few specimens and will send them along in case anybody wants to science them.

non-burned forest, yah?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-06-15 08:06:24 PDT (-0700)

Not sure what this species is. Not snyderi. Perhaps one that has not yet been described and named?

great photos Dan…
By: Richard and Danielle Kneal (bloodworm)
2015-06-15 01:59:36 PDT (-0700)

nice observations.

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