Observation 206987: Amanita amerifulva group

A rather pale version.

Mixed hardwoods with hemlock.

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Sure does.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2017-07-08 00:29:41 CDT (-0400)

“Have” is the wrong word. It’s more like I’ve borrowed some extra time and pay it back along with interest. It always seems to be less than I want.

You have time? Be careful. It will run away from you in a stampeded.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2017-07-07 12:15:17 CDT (-0400)

Thanks for the info, David.

Very best,


Rod, I think…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2017-07-07 10:01:19 CDT (-0400)

you probably have this mushroom (206987). All of my Vaginatae material prior to this year has been forwarded. I think John B told me that the package I left with him and Nina last year has been passed along to you. But, this obs is from 2015, so you probably received it in an earlier package. Actually, if it takes you awhile to get around to this, and other grisettes I sent, then this gives me some time to sort through my old observations and maybe come up with a few suggestions as to which ones may be grouped together. Last summer I began my “early partial retirement” by foregoing extra summer teaching assignments. (Looking for mushrooms is fun, and the mushrooms don’t whine about their Calculus grades :-) So, I’ve got more time to do things like get estimates on spore dimensions.

When I saw the exchange on this mushroom, I went to the website to see …
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2017-07-07 09:19:06 CDT (-0400)

what I had done. :) I also checked the herbarium records and the DNA sequencing records. I discovered that A.sp-NFL08” had not been sequenced. This needs to be taken care of. There is great similarity to the fulvoid group. Before our summer slowdown, Dr. Kudzma was in the process of learning how the eastern North American fulvoid group is structured based on nrITS, nrLSU, and rpb2 genes. I am fairly confident that sp-NFL08 falls into this group. I have seen fairly pallid species in the past that I attributed to daimonioctantes, which is one of the provisional names that we’re investigating in the fulvoid group.

This will take awhile to follow-up on. But we do have some data and are working on getting (and analyzing) more.

Very best,


Wow! The sp-NFL08…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2017-07-07 08:21:12 CDT (-0400)

seen on ret’s website looks exactly like the one seen in this obs. I had to check a couple times to convince myself they were not the same mushroom. Thanks Ryan.

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