Observation 212107: Amanita barrowsii A.H. Sm. nom. ms.

When: 2015-07-26

Collection location: Red lake, Alpine Co., California, USA [Click for map]


Who: christopher hodge (christopher hodge)

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Recognized by sight: Tastes like sugar, growing under aspen.

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actually, there have been NO other known obsies of barrowsii from CA …
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-08-30 10:43:46 PDT (-0700)

other than your post and Yuba Pass reference here. So thanks for putting yours up, regardless of photo quality. This appears to be a good year for them, across a rather broad range.

We are just beginning to get an eye for these, which do strongly resemble velosa, and even our concept of the European Amanita crocea (orange cap plus an orange chevron ornamentation on the stipe).

Odd that the “type” collection that Tulloss refers to have “no striations” or extremely short ones. They were present on all of the material that I saw in NM last week, but are indeed subtle.

No doubt individual variation.

Very cool find. Guess this one will make the cut in the new MDM or “All That the Rain,” god willing they someday see the light of publication.

We also found a heap of Barrows’ boletes in AZ, and a few more in NM. Heck, he even has a cool Lactarius named after him. Anything else out there honoring Barrows?

By: christopher hodge (christopher hodge)
2015-08-30 10:17:05 PDT (-0700)

For the cell phone photo, I know Thea snapped some pics with a real camera so I’ll get her to post them soon. I just put this observation up since there haven’t been many observations from the sierras of this species group.
These had short striations on the margin and did have a typical cheveron on the stipe, but I don’t remember there being any yellow there though I can’t recall for certain.
Thea and I almost made it out to the white mountains, but we broke down in flagstaff and we were stuck there all week. It would have nice to find the NM barrowsii, but I think I’ll have to wait until next year to get down there.

one more comment …
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-08-30 07:38:16 PDT (-0700)

the barrowsii that I collected in NM looked a bit different from yours … specifically in having pale orange chevrons on the stipe, and short but still obvious striations. Did your collections show striate margins? The photo gets blurry when enlarged.

Rod mentioned that there might be a cryptic species within the “barrowsii” concept.
I believe there was DNA evidence to back that statement up, as well as some of these macro-morph differences.

I did save half of my perfect fruit body for science … somewhat regretfully, since they were freakin’ awesome in the fry pan! Luckily, it was a hefty half fb, split three ways.

Amanitas are about as perishable as a mushroom gets. I try not to eat any beyond their expiration dates.

Hi Chris
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-08-30 07:29:43 PDT (-0700)

Since I first posted this comment, I actually found and ate barrowsii as well … in NM with Bob Chapman and the NMMS! Not only is barrowsii delicious, sweet and nutty like a velosa, it is a good bit sweeter than a velosa, at least when fresh and perfect.

I made sure to pack a stick of butter and a cast iron skillet for just this eventuality! ;)

I know just the aspen patch at Yuba Pass that you are talking about! It was also a banner year for these in NM, with many collections brought into their foray, including a perfectly adorable egg, just hatching out, courtesy of Carleen Cliver, formerly Skeffington.

NM also had an early season, with the bulk of fruiting long over by the time we arrived last week. Still, great collecting in both N. AZ and SW CO on our way to that foray.

Interesting that barrowsii is showing such a wide distribution. NM is a curious compilation of both western and eastern species.

Hope that the fall rains provide us with a good fall season up at the Pass and elsewhere in N CA.

Not my hat
By: christopher hodge (christopher hodge)
2015-08-29 16:15:52 PDT (-0700)

It is David Arora’s hat, he was nice enough to let me use his set up.

We did eat them, they are the sweetest mushroom ever. Literally fresh raw specimens tasted mushrooms in sugar syrup. Cooked up they maintain their very sweet flavor, however when they get old the sugaryness goes away.

Thea and I also found them up at Yuba Pass this year. The thunderstorms have really made summer hunting fun and interesting, actually counted over 40 species up at yuba pass after the last time we had good storms up here.

great collection!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-08-08 08:47:33 PDT (-0700)

good thing you had a hat! : )

did you eat them? if so, how do they compare to their lookalike grisette, A. velosa?

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