Observation 214122: Conocybe apala group
When: 2015-08-26
No herbarium specimen

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It’s more useful than “Conocybe”.
By: Jacob Kalichman (Pulk)
2016-07-25 16:41:56 EDT (-0400)
What does it imply for you?
By: Byrain
2016-07-25 16:34:37 EDT (-0400)

It pretty much means “Pale fragile Conocybe” in a similar way that Conocybe tenera group means "Brown Conocybe. Not all that useful…

“group” doesn’t imply monophyly.
By: Jacob Kalichman (Pulk)
2016-07-25 16:22:08 EDT (-0400)
Additionally
By: Byrain
2016-07-25 12:09:42 EDT (-0400)

Some of these taxa can apparently be told apart macroscopically with fresh specimens and someone who has the necessary experience. So photos would of been quite helpful…

By: Byrain
2016-07-25 11:41:40 EDT (-0400)

There is no group. The lookalikes represent species in Section Candidae – Series Albipes (C. albipes), Section Pilosellae – Series Inocybeoides (C. apala) and potentially any other pale and fragile Conocybe.

To make matters worse different European authors have different treatments and there appears to be a great deal of DNA work to be done. There is little DNA work done on NA collections which indicate we don’t necessarily have all the same species, but maybe we do share some of them? This problem has left us with bit of a taxonomical hurdle here in NA since we don’t have any clearly correct name even if some of the names might be good?

I am personally following the extremely detailed treatment in the European Conocybe and Pholiotina tome by Anton Hausknecht since its more than abundantly clear he knows far more on these genera than anyone at MO does.

By: Byrain
2016-07-24 14:52:38 EDT (-0400)

Is an European taxon, genetic evidence suggests North America has different species. Additionally even in Europe there are close macroscopic and microscopic lookalikes.

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