Observation 216108: Inocybe (Fr.) Fr.
When: 2015-09-04
(42.0697° -78.7564° 560m)

Notes: About half of the stipe was buried in the litter.

Proposed Names

13% (3)
Eye3
Recognized by sight
19% (3)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight
-13% (3)
Recognized by sight
-28% (1)
Recognized by sight: The stem texture is not correct for Inocybe, and it is way too long.

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
Eyes3 = Current consensus

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I was a herbarium curator for almost 15 years,
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-09-19 20:40:42 PDT (-0700)

and I would kick out from the herbarium everyone who would cross out the original label name and and write his guess there instead. In MO overwriting the original user’s name is a show of the lack of professionalism. Suggest your changes in comments if you don’t want to look like a typical citizen scientist! Adolf

Please propose names, do not just put names in comments
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2015-09-19 10:27:07 PDT (-0700)

The reason this site works so well is that anyone can propose names and all users can vote on those names. There are some other sites like iNaturalist where this is not the case. On these sites, often I will correct obvious errors, but the original uploader never comes back to accept my proposal. This makes it so when you search for a species, you get a whole lot of misidentified mushrooms. MO is great because if you see a misidentification, you can fix it.

No need to apologize – don’t touch the original user’s “Proposed Name”
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-09-19 08:11:37 PDT (-0700)

There is a fatal flow in Mushroom Observer. I don’t know too many databases, but MO is the only system I know that allows to make changes in the name of the record by everybody who decide to do so. If you have any suggestions about the MO observation ID, make it as a Comment to that particular MO observation and let it on the original MO user who posted that observation to accept your ID and change the MO observation name.
Crossing out the original MO observation name and putting your own “guess” there instead is highly unprofessional and it is a pity that MO allows such an “identification” process.
My advice: If you have a better ID, present it as a Comment and don’t touch the original user’s “Proposed Name”.

I want to apologize for the harsh words
By: Jacob Kalichman (Pulk)
2015-09-16 08:27:48 PDT (-0700)

and clarify my view.

1. Perhaps one of O&A posted the first comment and the other posted the second? They’re contradictory. Either way, the dissonance should be addressed.

2. “Guessing is not the best way to ID fungi.” No kidding! If it’s a guess, then by definition, it’s not technically an identification. But MushroomObserver is fundamentally based on guessing. See the % symbols on every single name proposal on every single observation? None of those are 100%. Guesses. Educated guesses.

3. “You cannot identify Inocybe without looking at microscopic characters.” This doesn’t mean that, e.g. I. terrigena, much less I. terrigena group, can’t be the best name (guess) for an obs without micro.

“This website is the wrong for you?”
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-09-14 21:31:15 PDT (-0700)

Check our observations!
http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user/2873
Except for some glitches and some critical users, we found this site an excellent place to post any additional material (photos and drawings) that goes with our collections.

Cognitive dissonance
By: Jacob Kalichman (Pulk)
2015-09-14 18:49:36 PDT (-0700)

What? Are you guys serious?

This website is the wrong place for you.

Guessing is not the best way
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-09-14 18:12:38 PDT (-0700)

Guessing is not the best way to ID fungi.You cannot identify Inocybe without looking at microscopic characters. The fungus on the photo looks to me as rooting. I would be inclined to think that this is not an Inocybe at all.

I. terrigena
By: Jacob Kalichman (Pulk)
2015-09-14 17:57:59 PDT (-0700)

came to mind for me, too. Thanks for affirming the reasonability of this guess!

This Inocybe is easy to identify
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-09-14 16:30:44 PDT (-0700)

There are not too many Inocybe species that would have shaggy stipe. Cf. Inocybe terrigena, etc.

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