Observation 23328: Amanita Pers.
When: 2009-07-19
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: This is new collection from the same patch as the mushrooms posted here:

Found under mixed hardwoods, mostly beech, maple, and oak.

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Dan, I noticed
By: Eric Smith (esmith)
2011-07-31 06:14:15 COT (-0500)

that the majority of your observations of A. velatipes have the same “odd” cap color and seem to be completely free of any universal veil remnants on the cap, which can often be copious in that species. I understand that the viscid nature of the cap often makes the warts run off, but you’re running almost 100% rate with that. They all have long. slender stalks for what is typically a robust species, making me think that you may have something altogether different here.

four claims about color
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2011-07-30 12:02:44 COT (-0500)

C1 – Mushrooms vary in color due to growing conditions.

C2 – Objects appear to be different colors under different lighting conditions.

C3 – There is no such thing as “the” appropriate lighting conditions for a mushroom.

C4 – There is no such thing as a precise representation of the true color under any lighting condition when using a camera with only three color channels.

To assume contraries to any of these claims is to fall into the error of naive color realism.

With that ^^ out of the way, these specimens (collected in 2009) appear to be darker than any I have found in the same location this year. I suspect this is partly due to different lighting and camera settings, and partly due to weather conditions: temps, rain, humidity.

I’m heading back out there this afternoon to make another collection. Hopefully Rod will be able to find the specimens in this observation so that he can compare then to the ones I will be sending him from today.

so Dan…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-07-30 09:52:13 COT (-0500)

was this the color that you saw in the field, or is it a photo artifact?

I also noticed that your photos of “velatipes” were consistent in having a different color than most others depicted here, but couldn’t that also just be a regional difference, if indeed these are velatipes and your photo represents the true color?

50754 is about the color to I’d expect…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2011-07-30 07:19:18 COT (-0500)

Since the same fruiting body appears in other pictures, I’d say there were lighting or camera issues. I also hope we see velatipes at NEMF. I haven’t seen it for too many years and need fresh material.


I hope that we see this amanita in PA!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-07-29 18:47:04 COT (-0500)

It’s a beauty.

Are these collections from Dan curious or in dispute because of the unusual cap color, Rod? Otherwise, they seem to fit your brief description of velatipes on your website pretty well, what with that unusual annulus and the rolled-sock volva.

dried specimens
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2009-07-20 13:27:59 COT (-0500)

are on their way to Rod Tulloss. I look forward to his analysis.

I see you got more of these….
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2009-07-19 22:03:31 COT (-0500)

Good lad!


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