Observation 24473: Cortinarius torvus (Fr.) Fr.
When: 2009-08-16
No herbarium specimen

Notes: This was found on the Connecticut Valley Mycological Society walk this past Sunday.
what got me was the ring on it and the broad Laccaria like gills
the cap was 3.5cm across, it had an odor similar to C. camphoratus but not as strong. taste mild.

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Perfect. That’s the right way…
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2009-08-18 15:07:45 BST (+0100)

Thank you Noah, I will need a small radial pizza slice of the cap, about 10-20 degrees. At max a half fruitbody. You can deposit the rest in a herbarium or keep it for safety. This way we also minimize the risk of a lost specimen. There was one remarkable collection of red Cort/Tubaria that we discussed in some other observation, but I never received it despite the sender claiming that s/he sent it. The first such case of more than 100 specimen that I have sent and received.

I never even utter a Cort name without having looked at the spores at a minimum. It could be something else as well. I got excited a bit by the original name because I thought that Walt actually knows this species well rather than being on a fishing expedition.

The spores of the two ideas are quite different and we should be able to get a better idea. I will inspect the cuticle too.

D.
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By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2009-08-18 13:19:00 BST (+0100)

I have the specimen, I can send it to you…

I think not. But it should be easy to figure.
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2009-08-18 05:12:02 BST (+0100)

I think you guys had it right initially. Why replace a good American name with spicy odor with a European name with fruity odor without any solid footing? Yes, it is in the same group as torvus, which is a pretty broad concept. Noah you shouldn’t “just go along” with an id, but “know an id” — if you don’t know an id, you don’t put an id… Anyway, if we look at the spores the matter should be closed easily. Do you have a small piece of it?

D.
I’ll go along with torvus
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2009-08-18 04:06:28 BST (+0100)

Thanks Walt.

Renee Lebeuf has a picture of Cortinarius squamulosus on her flickr site
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21189203@N05/2077612009/

it’s different from this one… (I did see it last year in CT)

C. squamulosus Peck — nice collection!
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2009-08-18 03:39:41 BST (+0100)

One of the most distinct Cortinarii of the East Coast. We do not see it out West. Noah, the cap is fibrillose-tomentose, or use any language, but it is not smooth. Thus the name+/-. The annular zone and bulbous stem (but nor marginated) are very distinctive. I believe that in today’s infrageneric breakdown it belongs in Sericeocybe where there are numerous similar species (but without such an annular zone).

D. www.mushroomhobby.com

P.S. Thanks to Debbie for notifying me of this interesting observation.

why squamulosus?
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2009-08-18 03:18:10 BST (+0100)

the cap isn’t squamulos…

Wow! That is one amazing mushroom, Noah…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-08-18 03:12:50 BST (+0100)

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