Observation 25000: Oudemansiella Speg.
When: 2009-09-03
No herbarium specimen

Notes: There were heavy rains for about 2 days. After this I found about 5 or 6 of these mushrooms in my lawn.
It is some days later and the weather has been cloudy and there are now about 20 or more living growing in the grass.

The cap is light grey-brown with a darker center. It seems to curl slightly upward on the corners. and it has a lot of white areas
The gills are white and after about 2 days of refrigeration they are still white
The biggest bulk patch I found was about 4 together

There are so many I wish to know what they are and if I can eat them

[admin – Sat Aug 14 02:06:16 +0000 2010]: Changed location name from ‘South Texas, Cameron cnty, USA’ to ‘Cameron Co., Texas, USA

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Recognized by sight
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Recognized by sight: Pictues of types of Oudemansiella seem very similar
Used references: Book description of this type fits quite well with most of the characteristics

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By: Youthfuldreams
2009-09-16 13:28:21 CDT (-0400)

I finally was able to find something very similar in a book that I purchased yesterday. Although I wouldnt call it a specific type for sure now, since it has been so dificult to ID and none of us know for sure.
I am kinda inclined to call it a Oudemansiella as well. The description in the book as well as the pic seemed very very similar. The only thing is that in the book it noted that several of these species have attached gills, and please correct me if I am wrong, I am new to this, these seem not to be.

By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2009-09-15 17:12:28 CDT (-0400)

Microscopically, an id of a Limacella to genus is not that difficult to do if there were a dried specimen.


Sticky when dry
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2009-09-15 16:46:50 CDT (-0400)

means slimy when fresh and moist, I think. The shiny appearance speaks for that too. But it’s a puzzling species, I have never seen anything like it. How well-known are the mushrooms of South Texas?

Limacella vs Lepiota
By: Youthfuldreams
2009-09-15 16:28:01 CDT (-0400)

I looked at several pictures of these two suggested types and the pictures of lepiota’s looks a LOT less like these shrooms than the pictures of Limacellas.

If I had to choose between one and the other I would say a limacella type and not a lepiota, but I am not a mycologist

I would like to remove that title from this observation, if it must have one I would call it a limacella.

Not slimey by my definition of slimey
By: Youthfuldreams
2009-09-15 16:22:08 CDT (-0400)

When they are small NOT wet as they were when I took the picture they are not really slimey. They feel dry and smooth and a bit sticky but there is not slime like coat on them.
When they are full grown they are very shiny and lacquer-like, but not even a little sticky

But they are slimy, aren’t they?
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2009-09-15 14:06:51 CDT (-0400)

Not a Lepiota in my mind. Maybe Limacella, but the ring also reminds of those on Oudemansiella..

They look like Leps
By: Eddee (eddeeee)
2009-09-15 13:56:06 CDT (-0400)

I had a similar one I found several growing in a boarding of lawn and wood mulch as like yours they had a creamy yellowish spore print. They came out tobe in the family Lepiota.

More pictures. still mistery. smell change
By: Youthfuldreams
2009-09-15 13:03:20 CDT (-0400)

I added 2 new pictures. One is of it when it was small. It looks slimey cause it had just rained, but it isnt really. It’s just a little sticky when its dry.

The other is of it in a more advanced stage of its life. As they get bigger the sides curl way upward until the dome shape is almost inverted.

The spore print gets more and more faded as they grow bigger (as expected) but I left a bunch out without refrigeration over night and they left a big brown stain.

I also noticed their smell changes from a very flowery scent (like gardenias) into a very strong nutty one (like pecan prailine or something)

I am tempted to have a small bite out of one and keep 911 on speed dial, but I KNOW there HAS to be a better way of testing for poison. (I know this is a stupid idea and I defenetly wont do it. please no lectures)

They look
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2009-09-10 17:29:30 CDT (-0400)

like species from the Lepiotaceae like Lepiota, Leucoagaricus and the like. I would call them Lepiota sp. and in any case would refrain from eating them for just in this vicinity there are some deadly poisonous lawn mushrooms. But this means NOT to frighten you, it is no ID’ing, it’s a possibility only…

Spore Print
By: Youthfuldreams
2009-09-10 13:14:18 CDT (-0400)

I have reprinted these and the print IS a very light yellow (like a pastel color)
After so many days in the fridge they show VERY little decay. The most I can tell that has changed is the color, its turning a bit more grey and a bit less brown.
Other than that they are still firm and fresh smelling. This is very intersting to me as I know mushrooms decay quite quickly

It is still raining and I have adverted my in laws about not mowing the lawn. I spend the weeks in the city and go check up on our home in the woods just every so often, but I did go and check last night. There were only two very small ones and I am not even sure they are the same. For some reason they seem kinda different, but they are brown and I found them in the same area
(I will return today with my camera)

Similar to mine.
By: Gestalt
2009-09-08 12:31:36 CDT (-0400)

Found something that looks quite close to that.


More printing, more rain, hopefully more shrooms
By: Youthfuldreams
2009-09-07 21:37:13 CDT (-0400)

Yes, I thought the spore print was yellow. But we were printing so many mushrooms I am not sure anymore. I will print one again tonight to make absolutely sure.

They were on the grass, just practically everywhere. We found about 12 under and around trees (none really close to the bark though), some growing on the grass next to the pool, others just on a grass patch growing next to field mushrooms and another 2 or 3 different kinds. I even think some I thought were the same were actually a completely different kind.

I still have those and after all these days they show little decay.
It has just rained here but we came back home to find my brother in law ran the lawn mower over most of my mushrooms (I had some new field mushrooms coming out too ;_;).
I will wait to see if more will come out due to the rain.
I will take as many pictures as I can if they do come back out.

By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2009-09-07 18:16:01 CDT (-0400)

most likely light spored and free(ish) gills… this doesn’t seem to fit anywhere.
The only thing that comes to mind is Limacella but that would be slimy… Can you take some pictures of it growing?

Possible Ripartitella brasiliensis..
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2009-09-07 12:01:21 CDT (-0400)
if they were growing on decaying wood. They are interesting and one would not consider eating anything so uncommon or unknown.
Need spore print at least.
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-09-07 03:58:19 CDT (-0400)

Did you try to get a spore print, and see what color the spores are? The veil is interesting on these, with the gills a little pinkish and it almost looks like free gills, these might be Pluteus. Was just on grass on the lawn, or is there are source of rotting woody debris, wood chips, a stump near by? Were they under a tree? It is also good to try and get photos of the mushroom in place to get a little info on the area where they were found.

(Are there Pluteus with a veil?)

By: Shane Marsh (Mushane)
2009-09-07 02:18:03 CDT (-0400)

seems like the gills on the young ones are pink, and you said the spore print was yellow right?

cool mushrooms
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2009-09-07 01:11:44 CDT (-0400)

Really cool mushrooms, I hope we find out what these are. They remind me a little of Cystoderma.

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