Observation 26114: Cantharellus lateritius (Berk.) Singer
When: 2009-09-21
No herbarium specimen

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Recognized by sight: golden chanterelle, cibarius or whatever it’s being called these days…
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I did look at the variations…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-06-30 10:33:48 PDT (-0700)

and also read both Kuo’s and Miller’s descriptions. Even Kuo sez that it is easy to confuse the two species, when both show gill ridges.

However, the gill ridge examples in lateritius are not very deep, as opposed to your eastern “cibarius;” it is interesting that our western californicus also can have shallow ridges, so that is what I am used to seeing for a normal vs smooth hymenium chanterelle.

“Cibarius” can also have fluted caps.

However, I think that you may be right about this one, due to the shallow nature of the ridges,unless there is another cryptic species in the east that we are not currently aware of.

The eastern chanterelles could certainly use some serious examination, in conjunction with DNA work. Wasn’t there something in the works already?

Course, maybe we still wouldn’t always be able to tell them in hand! ;)

Deviations
By: Erlon (Herbert Baker)
2012-06-30 09:57:31 PDT (-0700)

The hymenium layer in C. lateritius starts out smooth and can develop shallow vein-like ridges in maturity.

The wavy margin is also indicative of the species.

Here’s an example of a mature hymenium layer in the species.

http://en.wikipedia.org/...

You can click on the name Cantharellus lateritius to get a better idea of the morphological variations in this species.

Michael Kuo also shows us some nice examples..
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/cantharellus_lateritius.html

It would be easier discriminate if you had more than one specimen to go by.

hymenium not in line with lateritius.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-06-30 09:40:44 PDT (-0700)

the gill ridges are way too prominent. plus, was with an excellent local field mycologist at the time (Todd Elliot), in his home territory, who had much experience with the several species of local chanterelles.

the golden chanterelle that I depicted here is still waiting for a valid new name, hence my “cibarius” hedge, but Cantharellus sp. (esp. with all of the background discussion here) is indeed currently a better fit.

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