Observation 26590: Amanita Pers.
When: 2009-10-13
No herbarium specimen

Notes: This was given to me. It is a very young specimen Found In Webster county West Virginia under Beech and Oak. Trying to get it to grow a bit Hopefully it will open up for me. The photo are in an Artificial environment. the top scales are very large. and the Base swollen. Any Ideas ?

[admin – Sat Aug 14 02:07:35 +0000 2010]: Changed location name from ‘Webster Co. West Virginia’ to ‘Webster Co., West Virginia, USA

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Recognized by sight: found growing under Oak Beech

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even when the specimens are picture perfect ID can be challenging…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-10-14 12:21:54 CDT (-0400)

especially in the lepidella group. many white amanita mushrooms (sect. lepidella) will brown with age and handling; don’t assume that makes it the orange-pink daucipes. when you see one of those beauties, you’ll know it!

I can understand…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2009-10-14 08:48:27 CDT (-0400)

Part of the knowledge is about naming rules and conventions.
Part is about taxonomy (how to segregate collections into species).
Part is biology and chemistry (how does it reproduce? how does it get color? how does is make poison?)
And part is like materials science or mechanical engineering (why does the volva break this way or that way? Why do warts take on the forms they take on?)
And then there’s the math part…

Very best,


No problem
By: Eddee (eddeeee)
2009-10-14 00:16:18 CDT (-0400)

Im kind of new to the scientific aspects of collecting fungi so I learn something new every day. I understand what you mean now.

I think…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2009-10-13 23:50:49 CDT (-0400)

Those dart warts on the ends of the recurved scales of the part of the volva that was originally covering the cap. I didn’t mean to indicate there had been a volval sac on the bulb. I must have miscommunicated.

Very best,


I dont think it had a volva.
By: Eddee (eddeeee)
2009-10-13 23:16:37 CDT (-0400)

This was given to me by a new be mushroom enthusiast. I taught her about collecting ect. She dug the whole thing up. The Base is similar to A rhopalopus. I was thinking A. daucipes (Mont.)Lloyd. If you look in Roody West Virgina mushrooms ect. page 51 you will see a similar Specimen. At the moment I have this guy sitting in a nutrient broth trying to get it to develop a bit more. so hopefully in a few days Ill be able to get a spore print off of it.

Eddee, good grief!
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2009-10-13 22:49:42 CDT (-0400)

Are you casting some weird spells in your woods?

This specimen must have had the volva dry up before a rain encouraged the fruiting body to go into a growth spurt. Looks like big chunks of cap were “glued” to warts in the dry process, and the attempt to expand just ripped the sucker apart into dramatic recurved scales tipped by the dry chunks of volval material. Apparently, the bulb stayed moist and didn’t get ripped up in the same way. I’m not guessing on this one.


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