Observation 29755: Tricholoma flavovirens (Pers.) S. Lundell
When: 2009-12-07
Who: crbbndt
No herbarium specimen

Notes: found under mixed pines and live oak

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For whatever reason,
By: Dave in NE PA
2009-12-10 19:18:52 CST (-0600)

my previous comment has failed to post in full.

East coast vs west coast
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2009-12-10 18:37:14 CST (-0600)

I think when all the dust settles we will find that the eastern flavovirens is a different species from the western ones. Then there is the question about what is the correct name for the eastern North American ones, is it the same as the European T. equestre?

Dave, if you found it in oak woods (with no pine in root distance) I would assume that it was T. sejunctum. But we do have something hiding out under that name that grows with hemlock in MA. and in spruce/fir woods up north and looks more like the west coast collections of T. sejunctum. Maybe T. subsejunctum is a bitter fit for these darker conifer lovers???

had to taste test been finding them here for 3 years now
By: crbbndt
2009-12-10 13:19:54 CST (-0600)

Yes the camera i have sucks, was 800$ new 11 years ago prob time for an upgrade, but i spend all my time looking for mushy’s so that will ahve to wait. Yes gills are evenly vivid yellow through out yes I had to clean pine needles off the caps they were under mixed pines but the forest around this area as a whole is mixed with 3 types of pine, douglas fir, tan bark white and live oaks, some areas clumping trees more than others. Well i cooked a few up and tried em they were good ad I didnt get sick or even queasy so if not flavovirens then another that is ( well lets not push it) not toxic at least. they really do look way more yellow in person than in my pics though.

Douglas,
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2009-12-10 11:06:08 CST (-0600)

I have IDed specimens of T. flavovirens for which the gills were only partly yellow. But whether or not the yellow is partial or overall, it’s a rather vivid shade of yellow (on the gills). Also, although most common with pine, I have rarely seen this mushroom (or at least what I have IDed as such) growing in oak woods. I found a few in oak woods a couple months ago, and I may have some pics. If so, I’ll post later.

moral of the story?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-12-10 10:03:14 CST (-0600)

just don’t eat them.

Even when young T. sejunctum can have yellow gills
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2009-12-10 07:12:02 CST (-0600)

T. sejunctum can have yellow gills at all ages. But T. flavovirens has an even color of yellow across the whole gill face, while T. sejunctum usually has more yellow at the margin, fading to at least a white ring at the stipe. Also T. sejunctum has black radial fibrils from the center of the cap, and usually a darker cap than T. flavovirens, but that is not always true.

Also, I’ve been told that T. flavovirens tastes good, and T. sejunctum tastes disgusting…

But there are other yellow to off green Tricholoma to remember, so to think about these also they are viscid under pines. So if you aren’t picking off pine needles stuck to the cap, it’s not T. flavovirens.

Were these photos taken
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2009-12-10 06:37:24 CST (-0600)

using a flash? If so, then any yellow color on the gills/caps may have been washed out as viewed in the photos. T. sejunctum has gills that may discolor yellowish as the mushroom ages.

sejunctum has white gills
By: crbbndt
2009-12-10 00:49:10 CST (-0600)

sejunctum has white gills flavovirens has the bright yellow yellow gills ect.. ect..

Here in Pennsylvania
By: Dave in NE PA
2009-12-07 21:06:37 CST (-0600)

I would expect to see a lot more yellow on T. flavovirens.

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