Observation 31999: Gliophorus psittacinus (Schaeff.) Herink
When: 2010-01-13
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: specimen at the SFSU Thiers herbarium.

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BTW, the distinctive blue-green color remained after drying. :)
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-06-01 17:41:27 COT (-0500)

if you want to pursue it further, you’ll need to get over to SFSU.

Im trying to name this damn thing
By: damon brunette (damonbrunette)
2011-04-21 21:25:53 COT (-0500)

Gliophorus psitticina!! References: Cooper Union.

Thanks, Noah.
By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2011-04-20 15:06:31 COT (-0500)

So I see here that by Hesler & Smith’s description, it’s not a persistent blue that separates var. californica, just a bluer blue than typically seen in H. psittacina. They describe “Gobelin blue,” “Hay’s brown,” “mineral red” and “Pompeian red” as each making appearances at different times on the cap alone. Disregarding basidia size for a moment, I wonder then where else overlooked H. psittacina var. california might be lurking among our California observations. Seems like there’s at least some tendency for overlap here.

Danny,
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2011-04-17 14:32:54 COT (-0500)

Hesler and Smith is available online;
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/...

H. p. var californica
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-04-17 14:16:07 COT (-0500)

from Hesler and Smith:

“This variety is distinguished from the typical H. psittacinus by its blue colors and larger basidia. Smith has collected a form (57304) from Michigan which is blue in age and which may belong here.”

“Basidia: 42-60 × 7-9 µm” (vs. 28-46 × 6-8 µm)… Apparently not much overlap.

I second
By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2011-04-17 13:51:23 COT (-0500)

debdrex’s request (http://mushroomobserver.org/17340) for a written description of H. psittacina var. californica for those of us without access to the original Largent or Hesler & Smith source material. There’s next to nothing online on it other than an IF record of it’s former name Hygrophorus psittacinus var. californicus.

Are persistently green cap coloration + spore and basidia dimensions all that set this variation apart? If so, there a handful of potential H. psittacina var. californica candidates among H. psittacina observations from California

http://mushroomobserver.org/2212
http://mushroomobserver.org/33657
http://mushroomobserver.org/31540
http://mushroomobserver.org/31227

though none have been subjected to any microscopy. Furthermore, the last three were only observed young and in moist conditions, hiding any potential future hygrophanity.

Do you still have this?
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2011-04-17 12:59:05 COT (-0500)

Debbie can you dig this up and check spore and basidia size? or give it to Christian so he can check on “his” super scope…

perhaps Noah will post his link here?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-01-15 19:10:19 COT (-0500)

I’d like to see it before I jump onto the var. californica bandwagon.
All of the interesting Huckleberry collections are currently on the dryer.

Uh
By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2010-01-14 22:53:28 COT (-0500)

Last night Noah was wanting to call the whole collection H. psittacina var. californica. I read the variant description that he pulled up on his computer when we were discussing it. Seems promising to me.

perhaps…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-01-14 16:26:47 COT (-0500)

perhaps not. Noah located this beauty amongst the more mundane “parrots” along this trail. His in situ shots failed to capture its distinctive color, tho, which was obvious to all at the BAMS meeting last night.

perhaps var. californica
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2010-01-14 15:49:02 COT (-0500)

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