Observation 33373: Lyophyllum fuligineum (Peck) Singer

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Very nice!
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-02-12 17:17:56 GMT (+0000)

This was interesting, a Peck-species from 1888, and a new species described exactly like it from Italy 1998! It would be interesting to know how much research Consiglio did before he described aemiliae..

Peck’s original description looked like this:
“Pileus convex or nearly plane, obtuse, often irregular, dry, minutely squamose, sooty-brown, flesh grayish, odor and taste farinaceous;
lamellae subdistant, uneven on the edge, cinereous, becoming blackish in drying,
stem short, solid, equal, glabrous, cinereous;
spores oblong, elliptical, .0003 in. long, .00016 in. broad.
Pileus 1 to 2.5 in. broad; stem 1 to 1.5 in. long, 3 to 5 lines thick.
Among mosses in open places. Catscill mountains, September.”

I wonder why Peck didn’t mention the best character, the orange bruising (Kauffman did that later).

Lyophyllum fuligineum
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2010-02-12 14:09:45 GMT (+0000)

I think this is the name I meant in the first place.

http://www.mycoquebec.org/... fuligineum/ Lyophylle fuligineux&tag=Lyophyllum fuligineum&gro=25

Yes, Debbie
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-02-11 16:09:06 GMT (+0000)

And this is what I like about MO. Collections in herbariums, labeled by experts are important, but adding good photos of mushrooms that everyone has access to, is even better.

Now, suppose that a collection like this, but named Lyophyllum fumosum, had been chosen to be a part of a study, sequensed among other Lyophyllum species. What would the result be..? I suspect that things like that happen all the time.

cool Lyophyllum…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-02-11 15:26:26 GMT (+0000)

and an interesting taxonomic debate.

MO seem to be THE place to dispute these quick and dirty in hand foray IDs! And THAT is a good thing…

Yes Walt,
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-02-11 08:44:57 GMT (+0000)

Lyophyllum fumosum belongs to the decastes/aggregatum group. It’s not completely investigated and there are probably lots of synonyms or merely forms of the same species.
This blackening one is interesting with the initial orange bruising – could be Lyophyllum aemiliae. I don’t know if there are any older synonyms or more than one species looking so much like it?

By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2010-02-11 00:57:50 GMT (+0000)

http://www.mycoquebec.org/... fumosum/ Lyophille ?&tag=Lyophyllum fumosum&gro=25

By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2010-02-11 00:50:04 GMT (+0000)

Orange, then black. Identification was confirmed by Renee LeBeuf at NEMF 2009.

A blackening Lyophyllum
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-02-10 08:48:11 GMT (+0000)

but fumosum isn’t one of them.

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