Observation 33484: Cortinarius subgenus Telamonia (Fr.) Trog
When: 2010-02-11
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: These were growing near Live Oak. The caps were not hygrophanous and up to 8.5 cm across.
The spores were approx. 8.5-9.2 X 6.0-6.1 microns and appeared smooth to v. sl. rough.
The stems were dry, somewhat fibrous,deep in the ground, solid, and slightly tapering at the base.
KOH on the cap was brown and brownish on the cap and stipe flesh.

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Here’s the link.
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2010-02-14 18:42:17 EST (-0500)

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MushroomTalk/

Me and James Edmonds are moderators, just the two of us, I think. But we’ve moderated only once I think in two years, the rest of the time it’s pretty open. I dislike overly moderated forums..

D.
Link?
By: Paul Derbyshire (Twizzler)
2010-02-14 14:08:09 EST (-0500)
mushroomtalk
By: Eddee (eddeeee)
2010-02-13 16:57:53 EST (-0500)

it is a yahoo group that is based on taxonomy more than anything else. Good group to learn stuff from.

MT?
By: Paul Derbyshire (Twizzler)
2010-02-13 13:47:54 EST (-0500)
The Cort guys ain’t clear either…
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2010-02-12 22:58:32 EST (-0500)

>I’m not always clear on how to differentiate Telamonia from Sericeocybes?

Ha, ha… the Cort guys ain’t clear either… You’re doing fine on that count. There is a narrow concept of Sericeocybe and a broader one, while the French concept is the broadest. I’ll talk more about it on MT at some point. Your stuff seems to rest well within Sericeocybe according to the broadest concept (The French).

D.

P.S. Had these had a waxier cap appearance and distinct bluish cast on the context, with that sub/rooting stipe they might even be viewed closer to the Bicolores group around C. evernius, but they are not there.

Context was off-white
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2010-02-12 22:27:40 EST (-0500)
for both the cap and stipe. I didn’t detect any strong odor but I’m very unreliable for odor identification. Also the cap, while seeming to lose some of the lilac tint with age did not really appear to fade in color. They dried a dark brown color. I’m not always clear on how to differentiate Telamonia from Sericeocybes?
Some comments
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2010-02-12 22:17:42 EST (-0500)

I looked through my archive, but I couldn’t find anything like these… There are things that look close in that group around Turgidus/Malachius, but your wider and amygdaliform spores do not match anything that I remember seeing. I’ll bet a sum of money that these are undescribed and are not even going to be described soon because this is a difficult group within Telamonia and lower on the priority list (for now). We need to collect the way we are doing for awhile before we can get a good handle on what is what. Nice spore shot. Just next time remember to note the odor and also slice it – the context color is important to see, particularly if off white or it shows bluish tints. Much more so than the dimensional descriptions. A beautiful collection, I am jealous now..

D.

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