Observation 45234: Pholiota (Fr.) P. Kumm.
When: 2010-05-13
No herbarium specimen

Notes: These were growing in a single bunch in the open on the side of a track. The caps were dry and were about 3-4cm across. There was a good deal of mycelium evident at the base of the fungi.


Copyright © 2010 Ian Dodd Kundabung NSW Australia
Copyright © 2010 Ian Dodd Kundabung NSW Australia
Copyright © 2010 Ian Dodd Kundabung NSW Australia

Proposed Names

63% (4)
Recognized by sight
92% (2)
Eye3 Eyes3
Recognized by sight: Given the location and Walt’s comments about it not looking like typical A. alnicola material from NA, causes me to prefer using the genus name for this one.

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Weight changes are better than deleting names
By: Nathan Wilson (nathan)
2012-01-16 15:06:08 CET (+0100)

Sorry I didn’t catch this when the discussion was happening. In general it is better to just change your weighting for the synonym rather than deleting an id. Leaving the id means that others searching using that synonym will be able to see that another name is current.

In general I view the current votes as stating what you believe is the best name for this taxon, not ‘correctness’ in a strict sense. For example, it is valid to say this is a Pholiota, but that may not be what you think is the best name for this observation.

Name change

Thanks Jason, will keep MO’s happy.

typical North American material
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2010-05-11 23:33:06 CEST (+0200)
Pholiota alnicola
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2010-05-11 23:31:11 CEST (+0200)

is the name for the North American material and is synonymous with P. malicola.
This per personal communication with Dr. Coleman McClenahan. I do not know what occcurs in Australia but this does not look like our P. alnicola. Did your material have an odor? Corn?


Consensus has it that P. malicola is the correct naming. I removed the alternate naming but the listing remained? Can you adjust please Nathan?

A Names
By: Roy Halling (royh)
2010-05-11 17:26:56 CEST (+0200)

search here on MO, will show you the observations with a given name – in this case P. alnicola. If you dive a little deeper, you will see that there are several different observed substrata for this Pholiota; Sorbus being one. When I learned this agaric, P. malicola was a good name (and still is according to Index Fungorum), and I found it growing on Birch (Betula).
According to Smith & Hesler (Pholiota monograph), the only difference between alnicola and malicola is a bitter taste.


Hi Daniel, I tried to post P.malicola and MO site advised it was deprecated. So I used the update as advised.

P. malicola
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2010-05-10 18:46:01 CEST (+0200)

is not known to me. But sounds more reasonable than P. alnicola. I guess if the name changes, we’ll have confirmation, eh?

By: Roy Halling (royh)
2010-05-10 18:21:11 CEST (+0200)

I’ll go out on a limb here and suggest that Ian meant P. malicola as illustrated by Bruce Fuhrer in his 2005 book.

Alder nearby?
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2010-05-10 16:27:59 CEST (+0200)

I didn’t know alder (Alnus) grew in Australia, as alnicola seems to suggest.

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