Observation 48451: Cantharellus Adans. ex Fr.
When: 2010-07-11
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Cantharellus sp. Light pallid orangey dull-surfaced cap, folds much darker orange, stem orange too. The ones turned over in the picture were 2.3 cm wide x 3 cm high and 2.8 cm in widest dimension. Spores off-white, orangey when scraped together, ~8×6 microns. Seen previously at Walking Iron 7/24/08. We dried these to eat, so will have some available (for a while) if anyone is interested in looking at it more closely. I would appreciate knowing a name for it.

[admin – Sat Aug 14 02:07:27 +0000 2010]: Changed location name from ‘Walking Iron Park, Dane Co. WI, USA’ to ‘Walking Iron Park, Dane Co., Wisconsin, USA

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By: matthewfoltz
2010-07-17 09:58:00 CDT (-0400)

Great find! Haven’t seen that in my part of Wisconsin yet but I’ll keep my eyes peeled.

Don’t eat it!
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2010-07-16 20:29:36 CDT (-0400)

get a collection of this to Tom Volk’s student Matthew Foltz at UW Lacrosse. He is doing his thesis on the C. cibarius group

By: zaca
2010-07-16 20:12:34 CDT (-0400)

I think that the characteristics pointed out by R.H Petersen for C. pallens (european version) can be visualized in MO 48103 and 48104.
Have a good meal, Prof. Nelsen!

good luck with that, Steve!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-07-16 11:48:49 CDT (-0400)

There may well be no good latin name, so go ahead and create a common one!

What does Volk have to say? I imagine that the midwestern chanterelles could be different than the eastern ones, and are certainly different from the western.

There are several eastern chanterelle publications pending, including Cantharellus americanus, and who knows what all else? The harder we look the more we see and the more we realize that what we know already is wrong!

Luckily, in the case of an obvious chanterelle species like yours, at least we know they are edible, latin name be damned!

DNA work on your collections would be helpful.

cf, Cantharellus pallens
By: Steve Nelsen (sfnelsen)
2010-07-16 11:34:14 CDT (-0400)

I asked R. H. Petersen (Tennessee, Knoxville) to take a look at these pictures. He responded:
The cantharelle is a new one for me. In Europe there is a smallish
species they call either C. cibarius var. pallens, or simply C. pallens,
which closely resembles your photos: white on top, normal
cantaloupe-colored gill-folds. In the European thing, the stipe is white
(to my memory).

It is surely in the C. cibarius group – fleshy, with beta-carotine as
the chief pigment. The other side of the genus (C. tubaeformis, C.
infundibuliforms, etc.) was segregated into Craterellus based on DNA

As you may know, the C. cibarius complex is (right now) rather confused.
It is obvious that we (North America) do not have C. cibarius itself (it
may be limited to western Europe). But we DO have several look-alikes
and it will be interesting to see what happens to them when DNA is
revealed. Out west (Oregon), there have been attempts to describe a
couple “new” ones, but little has been done in the east. In Wisconsin
(upper middle-west) there certainly could be new things.

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