Observation 49706: Cyptotrama Singer
When: 2010-06-21
No herbarium specimen

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Proposed Names

-70% (3)
Recognized by sight: Reticulate-wrinkled cap, bright color, growth on wood
7% (3)
Recognized by sight: The metuloids and non-globose, non-spiny spores point aways from Rhodotus, despite the growth on wood, orangey color, and netted/veined cap.
46% (2)
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Recognized by sight: wrinkled cap, distant gills, tough rubbery texture slightly enlarged stipe base, on wood, bright color, cystidia
28% (1)
Recognized by sight
28% (1)
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By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-08-28 19:26:47 PDT (-0700)

http://tinyurl.com/4xh4gpy

At least all the generic proposals are in the same family… this bodes well for field taxonomy.

Fungi Fun
By: AmatoxinApocalypse (AmatoxinApocalypse)
2011-03-31 22:42:35 PDT (-0700)

Personally I have seen F. velutipes with a black stipe, also with a stipe that looks similar to these (see pictures). The one thing I have never seen with F. velutipes is lamellae like that, they have always looked nice and neat like in the pictures I am posting.

If you look closely you can see some similarities between the mushrooms in question and the pictures I am posting.

Notice the color of the stipe in this picture, it’s lighter in color.

http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/66019?obs=28741&q=40ls

The two pictures below shows the “typical” F. velutipes stipe.

http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/122411?obs=59455&q=40Vw

http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/32731?obs=15270&q=40ls

The color of the pilei in this picture are somewhat similar to what is shown I think…key word being similar :)

http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/31817?obs=15270&q=40ls

One of the best pieces of information someone blessed me with was “Don’t expect every mushroom you find to be field guide perfect”

It might be a Flammulina
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-03-31 21:12:14 PDT (-0700)

I guess, but it’s definitely not F. velutipes

Skin on the cap is a match? I can’t find any pictures of that species that looks a bit like this cap…

These were bright orangish-red, not very sticky, very fresh and netted-reticulate (which make it look at least as much like Rhodotus as it does F. velutipes), not clustered.

The stipe has lines and a bit of very fine pruina, but not the dark based fuzziness of F. velutipes.

Also, the spores were not from a print, so spore color is really uncertain. And I don’t think Flammulina have metuloid cystidia…

This is as close as I find to draw a resembance:
http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/37774?q=40ke&size=large

Take a close look at the stem
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2011-03-31 20:59:04 PDT (-0700)

Whoever is so sure that these mushrooms are not Flamulina velutipes should take a close look at the stem and compare it to other obs of F. velutipes. The color is a match, skin on the cap is a match, the white gills with webbing between them is a match, and the smooth white spore is a match as far as I can tell. The wood substrate is also a match for F. velutipes, but the stem is what really gives it away.

They look a little dried out, which accounts for the wrinkled cuticle on the cap. These mushrooms don’t look anything at all like Rhodotus palmatus, the only described species of Rhodotus.

Spore 8-9 × 5-6 microns
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2010-10-04 11:00:20 PDT (-0700)

Metuloid cystidia also present!

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