found small red ones in dirt in shady grove at top of Mt. Wittenberg trail and larger orange ones about middle of Z-ranch trail. Small red, young one’s had very slimy/wet (viscous, but not sticky) tops and when they dried out that night they more closely resembled the orange of the larger lactarius. White latex from caps and stem. Taste was a little but not very bitter. Little guys had curved in/inrolled cap margins, the big one’s had plane but wavy depressed caps. Spore print was as white as the card stock. The stalks broke cleanly/easily like chalk or a russula. Caps were up to 7.5cm, stalk 4.5cm tall, 1.5cm wide. Gills were thin average to crowded, with lamellulae near margins. Adnate to decurrent. Retasted later that night and definitely a mild acrid or peppery after-taste but not too strong.
MD page 65 9 – 15 – 17 – 21 – 23-24-25-26-27-28-31 – 32 – 35 – 40 – 41 – 43 – 48 – 52 – 53 – 54 – 55 “Cap scarlet to orange,…” => Lactarius subflammeus & others.
Problem with subflammeus is it says the stalk is “hollow, rigid but fragile” and these stalks were solid, not hollow. Gills that may stain brownish = luculentus and the rest matches so I’d call these luculentus.
One confusion I have is that MD says luculentus is very similar (to subflam) but w/ a mild to bitterish after-taste" where as All the Rain Promises and More says of luculentus “the taste is not peppery, subflammeus is similar but has a slightly peppery taste…”
Still the photos here seem to match mine, including some also found at Pt. Reyes this January.
thanks – hope to have clearer photos next time
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