Observation 51293: Leccinum versipelle (Fr. & Hök) Snell
When: 2010-08-08
No herbarium specimen

Proposed Names

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Used references: Alaskan key to local Leccinum.
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Eyes3
Recognized by sight: Irene suggested it. Not a perfect match, but better than rotundifolia.

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Eyes3 = Current consensus

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I just mean…
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2010-08-25 20:28:54 MST (-0700)

that DNA sequencing would really help to ensure that you’re neither making up entities (in highly variable species), nor missing real (but very slight) differences in groups of similar species.

How would you do
By: Johannes Harnisch (Johann Harnisch)
2010-08-25 19:28:34 MST (-0700)

genetic corroboration for Leccinum ?

I feel your pain
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2010-08-25 11:41:05 MST (-0700)

I didn’t mean to put the burden on you, Lord knows I have felt the same way (especially last year).

The pioneers I was referring to were the Murrills and the Kauffmans of yesteryear.

What I meant was that us well-meaning contemporary taxo-folks with digital cameras sometimes have very little to work with, even with the best literature available. Our names are only as good as our keys, and to be frank, a lot of the keys ain’t.

so many cool and unusual mushrooms…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-08-25 09:26:34 MST (-0700)

so little time!

It was pretty frustrating to be surrounded by amazing fungal diversity, most of which I had never seen before, and being the only one trying to collect and document what I was seeing. In fairness, Phil Carpenter did spend some time helping with IDs, but porcini lust pretty much ruled everyone there! I had my David doing the porcini dance, so I could concentrate on more interesting things(Gotta love a community property state!). ;)
But I coulda used another hundred taxonomists and a dozen dedicated driers and even then…

The whole time I was there, madly collecting, I kept thinking what a fabulous place for a future NAMA foray this would be!

As far as I can tell…
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2010-08-25 09:17:43 MST (-0700)

Leccinum taxonomy in the Western US is a mess. Something tells me Noah isn’t going to brag about the state of the art out East either. The group needs careful photography and genetic corroboration… two things which the pioneering mycological weekend warriors didn’t do and couldn’t have done (respectively).

versipelle…with a whitish cap?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-08-25 09:12:47 MST (-0700)

I do agree that the scabers look more black then brown and the sterile tissue at the margin also fits. the many new species of Leccinum that we found in Alaska were pretty overwhelming…and my key apparently lacked some distinctive characters.

?
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-08-24 23:48:42 MST (-0700)

“Flaps” on the cap margin and black scabers indicate something in the vicinity of versipelle, not rotundifoliae.

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