Observation 56305: Macrolepiota Singer
When: 2010-10-14
No herbarium specimen

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78% (2)
Eye3
Recognized by sight: Dr. Else Vellinga claims that we don’t have procera here, and I believe her! Still, those procera-like Macrolepiotas are all edible, to my knowledge, so what does it matter, really? But of course, MO is a leader in using pre-publication names for commonly encountered fungi…amerimuscaria, anyone? ;)
83% (1)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight: see Walt Sturgeon’s comment obs 147066

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I like the “group” designation…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2014-01-01 05:19:50 IST (+0530)

in cases like this, where there’s a close macro-look-alike named species, like back when some of us used to call the large eastern NA yellow morels “esculenta group.”

But technically, this appears to be a mushroom without a species name, so “Macrolepiota” is as good as it officially gets for now.

this is Else’s field, not mine…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-10-25 23:54:50 IST (+0530)

hopefully she will comment here directly.

Hopefully,
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2010-10-25 22:49:46 IST (+0530)

the different DNA species within the procera group will also exhibit macro differences. For instance, some of the American Morchella esculenta types seem to be macro – indistinguishable.

Are there similar DNA splittings within the original Euro species designations as applied to Euro materials?

it does indeed…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-10-24 21:03:38 IST (+0530)

except there is more than one species within this American group, and they can’t all be “ameriprocera!”

We are pretty quick to use unpublished names here on MO…it does show the fluidity of our current taxonomy, and that many of us are aware of or even part of the cutting edge taxonomy, but it can also be rather confusing…Dude, where’s my reference to the literature? Is Index Fungorum the ultimate arbitrator, or are even they behind the times? Or is it just a matter of their waiting for formal publication before using the new name formally?

Actually,
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2010-10-24 18:37:35 IST (+0530)

“ameriprocera” has a nice ring to it… don’t you think?

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