Observation 60641: Ramaria gracilis (Pers.) Quél.

When: 2010-09-18

Collection location: Walking Iron Park, Dane Co., Wisconsin, USA [Click for map]

Who: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)

No specimen available


[admin – Tue Feb 08 12:34:36 +0000 2011]: Changed location name from ‘Walking Iron County Park, Wisconsin, USA’ to ‘Walking Iron Park, Dane Co., Wisconsin, USA

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Recognized by sight: so many, and so difficult, both with and without microscope..
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Good Info
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2010-12-14 21:02:21 PST (-0800)

Thank you – that’s a lot of useful information. I’ll definitely get the book if it’s still available. Looks like the West is mush better covered by mushroom research than the East.

Books and keys
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-12-13 23:01:02 PST (-0800)

More to read here:
PNW keys. Most species from the sections Echinoramaria and Lentoramaria can be expected to be found from east to west, fewer from the other sections that are mycorrhizal.
Some pictures of them here:

If you feel like you want to learn more about Ramaria and want newer books, maybe this monograph is useful, although it’s focusing on western species:
http://www.blm.gov/... (big file)
And why not send the writers a mail, and ask if they are interested in collections and/or to give some more advice..?

Will try next year
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2010-12-13 17:20:30 PST (-0800)

Thanks for the hint. I’ll try to get some extra info next year on the corals I find. Although it does seem challenging. I don’t even know how to get spore print – I hope keeping them overnight over white paper will do, just like with most mushrooms? Sence of smell I almost completely lack. Taste I can do – I hope there is no really bad stuff in them like amatoxins. I don’t have poweful microscope or any chemicals to test them – can they (chemicals) be legally obtained for this purpose?
Thanks again.

By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-12-13 08:23:49 PST (-0800)

I think most pictures on the web of Ramaria species are labeled with wrong names.. Not only because the namings are based on plain guesses, but there are also many different interpretations of the names in different books.

There’s a provisional key to Scandinavian Ramaria species here:

My advice is NOT to use it for identification of american species (or european, for that matter. I think several species are missing, and some have new names). But it’s useful if you want to learn about some important details to look at on this group of species. You need to make notes of taste, smell, spore colour, chemical reactions in different parts, colour changes after bruising – and definitely a microscope to see spore ornamentations (not easy even then).

I don’t know
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2010-12-12 13:48:38 PST (-0800)

I does, indeed, look like the one you mention. I doubt that THAT photo is correctly identified, though. There are other Ramaria myceliosa in MO (#31870) and they look different from that one. Can’t anyone release a good book on Corals? I have “The Club & Coral Mushrooms of the US & Canada”, but it’s very old, the taxonomy is aged and the pictures are stone age.

Looking for similar pictures
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-12-12 09:55:49 PST (-0800)

I think you’ve got a more similar one at obs 31299. This reminds of Ramaria myceliosa, but there are many look-alikes, and it needs to be confirmed by microscopy (and reliable literature..).

Please compare with # 59872
By: Andrew Khitsun (Andrew)
2010-12-12 09:34:55 PST (-0800)

It looks very similar to another species you helped me identify (observation #59872). That was Lentaria dendroidea. I just realized there might be a resemblance between the two. It’s very unfortunate that most mushrooms literature only has depictions of the few most common corals

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