Observation 60751: Cortinarius (Pers.) Gray
When: 2010-12-11
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: with canyon oak.

Proposed Names

44% (2)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight: hairy brown cap, darker in center, bulbous stipe, pale, streaked orange context.
Based on chemical features: farinaceus odor and taste.
KOH: black on cap, gray on context.
3% (2)
Recognized by sight: Christian recognized it at the BAMS meeting.

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
Eyes3 = Current consensus

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I know even less…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-12-17 17:49:35 PST (-0800)

so back to sp. we go.

Raphanoid
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-12-16 23:45:11 PST (-0800)

I don’t know about your american species, but more or less radish-like smell is a character for the whole group in europe, including cotoneus, venetus and melanotus.

OK wait a minute here…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2010-12-16 08:07:31 PST (-0800)

unless there is info that is not on Dimi’s website, supposedly clandestinus has a strongly raphanoid (mealy) odor, which this mushroom fits to a “T”.

Does the unnamed Cort that is similar also have this odor? I do still have the fruit body…

Irene
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2010-12-16 08:01:55 PST (-0800)

You are absolutely right – I just checked Dimitar’s site and the species he used to have illustrated under C. clandestinus he now denotes as an undescribed species.

So, sorry Debbie. I was behind the curve on this one.

C. clandestinus?
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2010-12-16 00:28:37 PST (-0800)

Isn’t it more likely the other, unnamed species (aff. cotoneus) that Dimi showed in the little tree when obs 56226 was discussed?

Btw, the KOH reaction in the flesh is red/brown in most species of this section (Veneti). Is it different in the californian species?

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