Observation 63319: Amanita Pers.
When: 2011-02-08
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Found in live oak with sandy soil. Solid stem, stain ever so slighly red when cut, no distinctive smell. Specimens seem some what old but far from completly dry.

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Recognized by sight: Looks like a pale version of the spring form.

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stipe and calyptroderma
By: Jeff Riedenauer (Tamsenite)
2011-02-09 14:51:14 CST (-0500)

The cut on the stipe is not a very good one, I missed the middle all the way through the stipe. Other spring coccora were found less then 100 yards away in the same oak patch, about 8 of them. All were very young, most all in mushrumps under duff. Hope this helps.

if you collect more…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-02-09 12:38:06 CST (-0500)

check the spores with Meltzers, a simple way to tell a Section Caesarea from Section Amidella. This does look like a possible aberrant spring coccora…volva matches, hollow stuffed stipe matches. I can’t see a striate margin, tho…

And Man, I hate calling these calyptroderma, which they wouldn’t be even if they ARE the spring coccora. You know, our pale form in search of its very own name…

Stipe
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-02-09 11:08:53 CST (-0500)

isn’t solid – in the cross section you can see a stuffed cylinder.

Nathan – I also considered a pale spring coccora, but Jeff mentioned red staining (which I admittedly can’t see), and until just now I was having a hard time seeing the UV at all – now I can see that it covers almost the entire cap.

Not sure…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2011-02-09 09:42:23 CST (-0500)

Not sure about Amanita calyptroderma with the solid stipe…

Amidella seems unlikely to me
By: Nathan Wilson (nathan)
2011-02-09 09:19:12 CST (-0500)

I’m not familiar with this section, but based on what I could find on Rod’s Amanitaceae site (http://www.amanitaceae.org/?section+Amidella) these photos don’t seem like a good fit. While I couldn’t find an explicit description, it seems clear that the universal veil of this section is breaks up far more easily than appears to be the case here. I think it looks more like a pale spring Coccora.

hi Christian
By: Jeff Riedenauer (Tamsenite)
2011-02-08 23:54:05 CST (-0500)

Sorry man didn’t pack any home, but I can tell you exactly where they are. It’s easy to find. 37.02’11.74 N: 122.02’33.88 W or the large live oak grove at the intersection of Lockwood Lane and Graham Hill Road. Right on the side of the trail entering the groove.

Hi Jeff
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-02-08 23:33:03 CST (-0500)

If you can save (or dry) one or two specimens of this, I would love to look at them.
They may be our rare, perhaps undescribed local Amidella

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