Observation 66463: Amanita muscaria subsp. muscaria
When: 2011-04-26
No herbarium specimen

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These four names are still valid
By: Erlon (Herbert Baker)
2013-11-13 01:47:53 PST (-0800)

A. muscaria
A. muscaria subsp. muscaria
A. muscaria var. muscaria
A. muscaria f. muscaria

They are autonyms, they all represent the same species; these names are generated automatically when an infraspecific taxon is validly published under a legitimate species, (i.g., A. muscaria subsp. flavivolvata). Autonyms, do not have an author citation.

precision in names…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2011-05-30 12:21:58 PDT (-0700)

There are many opinions about names on MO … especially when it comes to anything muscarioid…

I’m not in the competition.

This material and the other collections posted by Lucy Albertella from Little Hartley are material of the Eurasian species, A. muscaria. If you were to hold that there are taxa that should be called subspecies of A. muscaria that are distinct from the type of the species, then, to be precise as to which subspecies your are talking about, you should then call this material A. muscaria subsp. muscaria.


so, since it is identical to the type species…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-05-30 12:00:40 PDT (-0700)

does that make it merely Amanita muscaria, without all of the subsp. additions?

Determination confirmed
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2011-05-30 11:19:47 PDT (-0700)

Material from this site in Little Hartley has been confirmed microscopically to be Amanita muscaria sensu stricto — the Eurasion, red fly agaric. This confirmation was only possible because of the dedication and generosity of the collector, lucya, who sent me seven collections of this species from the site in question. I think that five of those collections were posted on MO with images.

Details on the collections and the revised spore data for this species resulting from measuring the spores of lucya’s collections are located on the technical tab of this page:



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