Observation 70262: Amanita praecox Y. Lamoureux nom. prov.

When: 2011-06-26

Collection location: Luzerne Co., Pennsylvania, USA [Click for map]

Who: Dave W (Dave W)

No specimen available

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Recognized by sight: Looks just like velatipes should look… except for the lack of marginal striations. Probably due to age and viscidity.
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The spore shape will separate them fairly clearly I think.
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2011-12-16 04:07:22 CET (+0100)

The name velatipes came about because, at first, Atkinson thought that the partial veil must be pulled up from the surface of the stipe in order to make it take on a funnel-shape. … I rather like the latinate word “infundibuliform.”

Very best,


The annulus does not show the funnel shape
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2011-12-16 03:15:22 CET (+0100)

that one sees on velatipes. If this is a prominent character for the species, then this certainly casts some doubt upon the velatipes proposal. I had thought that the annulus being inferior was telling. Not really certain about how old the mushroom was. Based my “young” claim of the viscid unexpanded cap. I don’t recall the weather conditions. The area of collection has plenty of hemlock trees, a praecox associate (and oak, pine, other hardwoods). Also, the volval margin looks more limbate than rolled and the stem appears to have darkened from handling, which both support the praecox proposal.

I would not place too much emphahsis upon the earliness of the fruiting. Things really got off to a quick start this spring, and I was finding plenty of other stuff that generally does not show up until at least early July.

Didn’t look at spores for this one. That may have settled things. But praecox certainly looks like a good possibility. I suppose I may have been lumping velatipes and preacox. Hopefully, this type comes out next year, and I’ll examine more closely.

Thanks for the input, Rod.

If this is newly emerged…
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2011-12-16 02:25:44 CET (+0100)

then, if it were velatipes, it would have a substantial, upward-pointing, funnel-shaped partial veil. Since it’s a June specimen, how about A. praecox?


Just looked at this one again…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2011-12-15 21:51:36 CET (+0100)

When viewed on zoom, the marginal striations (faint on this newly emerged/viscid specimen) are visible.

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