Observation 72636: Boletus frostii Russell
When: 2011-07-25
No herbarium specimen

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Eye3 Eyes3
Recognized by sight: Has vivid colors
Used references: Tried to look it up but was blinded by awesome colors
Based on microscopic features
Based on chemical features: This mushroom appears to reflect more light than it receives

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This mushroom appears to reflect more light than it receives
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2011-09-20 17:19:49 PDT (-0700)

It’s all about how you place the lights.

Dan,
By: damon brunette (damonbrunette)
2011-07-29 09:52:35 PDT (-0700)

Congartulations! I picked up the new “Book of Fungi” yesterday and noticed that two of your pictures in that book were accredited to you. So another example that those pictures were “taken” and “made” into publication.

yep
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-07-27 14:40:43 PDT (-0700)

I agree, and I primarily referenced digital formats because 1) it is what I use and 2) the manipulation possible (both before and after the shutter is opened and closed) is of a wider variety and finer scale in digital than in traditional film.

I don’t think there are many practical differences between ‘taken’ and ‘made’ but I think there are significant implications for people’s understanding of the process. Often when non-photographers look at nice photos, they say ‘Wow you must have a great camera’, which really gets my goat.

So much effort on the photographer’s part (framing, lighting, making technical decisions and post-processing, not to mention crouching in awkward positions for 30 seconds at a time holding reflectors for hours a day) is implicitly ignored in that statement of praise, despite usually being well-intentioned.

Photographs: “made” verses “taken”
By: Morganella
2011-07-27 14:19:30 PDT (-0700)

Christian,

I think your characterization of the images produced by digital cameras (images “made” as opposed to “taken”) additionally applies to the older film formats (e.g., 35mm) and probably paintings and drawings as well.

Do you agree?
Did you confine your comments to digital cameras because that is primarily what is being used currently?

Also, what do you take to be the important difference between images being “made” verses being “taken”?

“Taken” in this context seems to imply greater precision in communicating what the experience was like for the photographer but the very act of taking a picture (deciding what to include, how to light, how to arrange) seems to be akin to the photograph being “made”.

All photographs are made and there is no avoiding that.

Some photographs merely differ in how they capture the carnival colors characteristic of mushrooms.

-Morgan

Right on Drew
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-07-27 09:36:24 PDT (-0700)

Any image coming out of a digital camera is “made” much more than it is “taken”.

Photoshop can be used to many ends, and what matters most is that we take a moment to
sort out our priorities in the kinds of photos we make.

The much maligned Photoshop
By: Drew Parker (mycotrope)
2011-07-27 09:27:15 PDT (-0700)

It always makes me cringe when people assume that Photoshop is only a tool to make photos look less real. Anyone who assumes that the photo that comes straight from the camera is as accurate as it gets is fooling themselves. A camera sensor is a far cry from the human eye, and introduces all sorts of inaccuracies. Many cameras are pre-set to do this i.e. to over saturate because that’s what the “point and shoot” public apparently prefers. I adjust most of my images in Photoshop, a least a little, to make the subjects look more like they did to my eye, not to trick them up. A flash on the other hand is a tool that all too often diminishes the accuracy of the image…making it look more dramatic, but usually not more accurate.

illuminated, not photochopped
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2011-07-27 07:07:12 PDT (-0700)

This mushroom was illuminated with a mix of cool-white light from an LED floodlight, flash (camera turned upside down), and ambient sun filtered through a green canopy. I never use photoshop, though I will adjust the levels using the camera software if a photo is underexposed.

This photo was not adjusted at all – yes it really looked like that in my shroomy spot-light :)

Yes, they are photoshopped
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2011-07-27 06:02:23 PDT (-0700)

but in realiter they are beauties nevertheless – deep crimson, shining apple boletes with prominent furrows on stipe – ah, how I love and worship those guys. I’m glad I saw plenty of them during my ten days stay in Maggie Valley in the Smokies and sure want to return somewhen!!!

Faking out photoshop!
By: Nathan Wilson (nathan)
2011-07-27 05:55:56 PDT (-0700)

When I glanced at a low res version of this image I thought it was a bad photoshop job! However, when I look at the full image I see it’s an effect of the way Dan used the flash.

I still want to see one of these in real life.

Love this bolete!
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2011-07-27 03:01:37 PDT (-0700)

It’s simply stunning …

Yea they usually do
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2011-07-27 00:25:49 PDT (-0700)

I understand completely.

I was amazed by the vivid colors,
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2011-07-26 22:50:16 PDT (-0700)

but the colors I saw looked different…

for lack of a better word
By: Danny Newman (myxomop)
2011-07-25 19:10:18 PDT (-0700)

this is truly psychedelic

Noah Siegel found this mushroom
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2011-07-25 19:08:44 PDT (-0700)

He was amazed by the vivid colors ;)

Created: 2011-07-25 19:02:18 PDT (-0700)
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