Observation 73593: Undetermined
When: 2011-08-07
No herbarium specimen

Notes: I was watching a bird pecking under a flower pot.
The bird pulled something out and dropped it.
This is what is was. If I hadn’t been watching, I never would have found it.

I am drying it now.

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Recognized by sight: I don’t think that it is a Cordyceps either…the cap texture is all wrong.
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77% (2)
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Undetermined Mystery
By: Phalluscybe (phonehenge)
2016-06-06 06:12:07 PDT (-0700)

A mystery.
The caterpillar that is missing may have been about to pupate.
That is likely since there is already one in place.
I did not cut the mushroom in half.
It is odd that this is all under a flower pot on concrete.
Probably just two events coinciding.

Object to the right of the fungus in
By: Daniel B. Wheeler (Tuberale)
2016-06-04 21:50:00 PDT (-0700)

photo 2 appears to by a pupae: the resting stage of a caterpillar or moth before becoming mature.

so, something pupated there, but who knows what the bird ate?
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-08-08 17:25:56 PDT (-0700)

or what the caterpillar was actually doing. no evidence remaining is not really evidence. Perhaps that other caterpillar also crawled under the pot to pupate?
we know that something fungal is growing there, but what genus…???

cut your fruit body in half lengthwise and check for gills. if there are no embryonic gills, then maybe this is just a very undeveloped cordyceps, but that cap texture is just wrong to my eye. why would there be all the primordia in the mycelia, anyway? shouldn’t it all be connected to an actual host, since it is a parasitic mushroom? if its just some saprobe tho, could grow up to be anything.

Put the pot back, keep it moist, and see what happens.

There is no beetle. There never was.
By: Phalluscybe (phonehenge)
2011-08-08 16:54:38 PDT (-0700)

No, the Cordyceps was not cut in half.
The Caterpillar is gone, eaten by the bird. I put the Cordyceps back where it was obvious it came from, except that the Caterpillar is no longer available.
The apparent Cordyceps fungus (mycelium) is completely coating the bottom of the flower pot. There are hundreds of tiny balls in the mycelial mat. This pot is sitting on concrete. Please note the void where a Caterpillar once was. There is no dirt. This is no Agaricus button.
The insect that’s present is a pupa of a Moth. It is apparent that another Caterpillar that was also lying next to this pupa when it was attacked before it could become a pupa.
I will be watching this pupa to see if the Moth is attacked as it rubs against the fungus on escaping from under the pot.
Phalluscybe
Hugh Smith

perhaps the beetle…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-08-08 11:11:39 PDT (-0700)

was eating the fungus, instead? Turnabout is fair play.

Armillaria?
By: Darvin DeShazer (darv)
2011-08-08 09:04:36 PDT (-0700)

Looks like a small button of Armillaria with a shaggy cap. Was it cut in half?

weird…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-08-08 07:15:28 PDT (-0700)

did you dig up the beetle, to make sure that this thing is actually growing out of the body? it appears undamaged in your photo.
I also can’t see any perithecia in your cap close-up, which also seems odd.

could it be a coincidence that these two species were growing next to each other???

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