Observation 75067: Leucoagaricus americanus (Peck) Vellinga
When: 2011-09-01
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Would like to confirm this species as edible.

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Asheville Mushroom Club Fall Foray
By: Patrick Harvey (pg_harvey)
2011-09-02 11:54:10 PDT (-0700)

The mushroom club in Asheville, NC is having a foray the weekend of September 9th in Black Mountain, NC. More information is here:

http://www.ashevillemushroomclub.com/...

Would be a good place to meet some people from the area if you can swing it, and that’s a GREAT place to hunt for mushrooms.

Richmond Posting
By: BakerSt10
2011-09-02 06:16:07 PDT (-0700)

Michael I saw this posting yesterday and thought I should forward to my son. So now I hear you guys went out together. This is a great place to get advice and learn. There are some online ID places like:http://www.mushroomexpert.com/
This is a East Coast site so it will have more of what you find. Habitat is helpful on the description because you can narrow it down. I’m not sure what the best book is for the Richmond area. I still use Mushroom Demystified as my bible.

Phil

Thanks
By: Michael (michaelwilson)
2011-09-01 19:10:13 PDT (-0700)

Thank you all for the good advice. Well taken. Unfortunately there is no mushroom club in RIchmond, or in Virginia, from what I can tell. I’ll keep looking though. I’m glad I found this website to help me along-and glad I have met you folks who can help me.
Thanks again

good advice for a newbie, Damon.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-09-01 16:18:47 PDT (-0700)

We’ve all been there, done that.

It’s exciting to find edible mushrooms, but sometimes ones enthusiasm can overtake ones ID abilities, and photo IDs are not something to bet your life on.

Indeed, not all white spored mushrooms are benign, and it is amazing how wishful thinking can color what we see.

Get yourself a field guide, join a local mushroom club, keep collecting and looking and asking questions. Eating your finds should be a bit further down the line, even tho I do believe this mushroom is an easily IDed from a photo example. We don’t want you doing unsafe generalizations! ID mistakes in taxonomy are no big deal; ID mistakes that you eat can be fatal.

Experience is the best teacher. To throw a hoary old mushroom adage your way: collect many before you eat any.

Confirming edibility via pictures…
By: damon brunette (damonbrunette)
2011-09-01 11:51:50 PDT (-0700)

Michael,

Even though the most experienced mushroom members on the site chimed in for the ID, I think its not a good idea to try to find out edibility by a picture. Particularly when the species in question has a ring and a scaled cap, white spore print…. It make take a newcomer many years to feel confident knowing the differnces of agarics vs amanitas-and for good reason.

Were not talking chanterelle, morel, chickens, black trumpettes… culinary gems. Most edible agarics are not so special as to roll the dice.

Rachodes and americanum
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2011-09-01 09:45:59 PDT (-0700)

are both quite good in my opinion. Both have a strong flavor. I am not sure what the intolerance rate is for either. Overindulgence and alcohol may be factors.
One of our club members really likes C. rachodes and continues to eat it even though her tongue swells up following consumption.

interesting, Walt…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-09-01 09:35:32 PDT (-0700)

since that is also true for Chlorophyllum rhacodes.

About the same percentages of bad experiences for americanum? In other words, more that the usual few that can react to any mushroom?

Best to try just a little bit of any wild mushroom, properly IDed, that is new to you.

Some folks
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2011-09-01 09:23:34 PDT (-0700)

can’t tolerate this species. When fried it will turn red brown in the skillet.
http://www.mushroomexpert.com/leucoagaricus_americanus.html

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By: Michael (michaelwilson)
2011-09-01 08:44:38 PDT (-0700)

I am a new mushroom hunter. Found these in a 3 acre patch of woods I walked this morning. It seems like the consensus is Leucoagaricus americanus. Is this edible? Looks like the spore print needs to be white so I don’t eat the C.molybdites. ANy reccomendations?

overall swollen stipe base, narrowed at the top, and that reddens…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-09-01 08:39:14 PDT (-0700)

is a dead ringer for the former Lepiota americana. Edible to most, but maybe not incredible. Caution is advised, tho, since there is a toxic lookalike. Take a spore print to be extra cautious (should be white, not green) and be sure that all specimens collected fit the description for americanus. Got field guide?

Top of cap
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2011-09-01 08:23:10 PDT (-0700)

photo would help with ID as would habitat notes. Looks a bit like Leucoagaricus americanus.

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