Observation 79369: Tricholoma (Fr.) Staude
When: 2007-11-21
Who: Kevin Trim
No herbarium specimen

Notes: growing in T. magnivelare habitat

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By: Drew Parker (mycotrope)
2012-01-02 17:00:16 PST (-0800)

with Irene that this is not Tricholoma apium, which has an areolate scale pattern rather than radial, and lacks the yellow tones.

Come on Adolf, photos can be very useful if they are good photographs.

But Kevin,
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2012-01-02 02:30:15 PST (-0800)

it’s a good observation about the stems. If your sense of odors happens to be deceiving you (a young and fresh apium doesn’t smell the same as and older or drying one either), the stem has a useful and important character in apium: the very fine scales. And this one doesn’t have them.
Unfortunately, the photo in obs 65373 isn’t close enough to show if there are any, but they can be seen in both obs 27247 and 27261.

Stems looking different?
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2012-01-02 00:06:22 PST (-0800)

Did not you write that your and Oluna’s stems look the same? Forget looking at the photos, that does not work well in mushrooms. Next time collect a specimen and you can compare it with ours and Irene’s.

Re: Characteristic smell
By: Kevin Trim
2012-01-01 23:47:37 PST (-0800)

You jog my memory. I believe Oluna had pointed out that smell before. What about the stems looking different?

Characteristic smell
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2012-01-01 19:18:54 PST (-0800)

Tricholoma apium has a characteristic smell of celeriac (Apium graveolens), hence the name. That’s a totally useless character when you look at the photo. For many groups of fungi (e.g., LBM’s, many Russula, some Tricholoma species, etc.) you need to have a specimen in hand for a proper identification. Our suggestion of Tricholoma apium for your photo was based on the fact that we have seen and collected this species in Blueberry Flats before (cf. MO #65373).

Tricholoma sp.
By: Kevin Trim
2012-01-01 15:34:38 PST (-0800)

Stipes in Observation #79369 and #65373 do not seem to match stipe in #27261

This is not Tricholoma apium
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2012-01-01 02:28:14 PST (-0800)

but in our matsutake-habitats we usually also find apium, arvernense, equestre, aestuans, focale, colossum and pessundatum (+ Lyophyllum shimeji and several Sarcodon and Hydnellum species).

With the radially fibrous cap and gills yellow near the cap margin, it looks closest to arvernense (earlier included in sejunctum, which now is considered to be a hardwood associate with a southern distribution).

Tricholoma apium in Blueberry Flats, Sooke
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2011-12-31 21:49:19 PST (-0800)

See our Observation # 65373 of Tricholoma apium from the same locality.

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