Observation 82960: Boletus L.
When: 2011-11-20
Who: zaca
No herbarium specimen

Proposed Names

9% (3)
Eye3
Recognized by sight
54% (1)
Eyes3
Recognized by sight: strange cap colour too
50% (3)
Recognized by sight: pink pores, bluing on cap, almost appendiculate stipe base, cf. pics on the net
Used references: Klofac, Key to European Boletes with tubes in hymenophore (2007)
54% (1)
Recognized by sight

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
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Thanks, Gerhard and Irene.
By: zaca
2013-02-02 15:40:08 PST (-0800)
Yes,
By: zaca
2013-02-02 08:28:44 PST (-0800)

Taking into account the extreme variability of the species and the more redish cap, I think that Boletus luridus var. rubriceps fits quite well.

Yes,
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-02 07:41:11 PST (-0800)

that’s why Singer described B. caucasicus.
if Boletus luridus what about Boletus luridus var. rubriceps?

You asked:
By: zaca
2013-02-02 07:35:02 PST (-0800)

“Are the pores really that pinkish or is this only in the picture?”, but I don’t see only pinkish there, the pink is scrambled with and/or vinaceous-red. Anyway, I think that the photos faithfull reproduce the colors.
Moreover, I see orangish/red or better orangish/vinaceous-red under the tubes, with some yellow closer to the margin; The photo with the reaction to cut is a bit blurred, but in the outer zone (on the right in the photo) I can see some red in the line separating the tubes from the flash (I’m used to call it “bataille line”), whereas that line is blue closer to the stem. But, to my experience, it is common that some specimens present a clear red line while in others this line is not so well defined.

What do you mean with that?
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-02 07:05:31 PST (-0800)

I cannot see the “pelteraui” line if you mean that.
What I can see is that the bottom of the tubes is pinkish red. That would point to Boletus comptus.
Are the pores really that pinkish or is this only in the picture?

.
By: zaca
2013-02-02 06:55:52 PST (-0800)

Gerhard, you said “My own experience with Southern European species tells me though that some mushrooms look indeed very different down there”. Even knowing this, why do you “ignore” the distinguished feature mentioned, the color of the flesh under the pores. Every other species you will propose, lack this feature.

Habitat: zone of calcareous rock without big trees; dominating species Quercus coccifera.

Hmm
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-02-02 06:40:39 PST (-0800)

Gerhard, the link doesn’t show a very good picture (heavy blue cast), but I think there’s a slight blue cast in zaca’s pictures too, except the one where the tubes are peeled off.
Might be helpful to know the habitat.

Look at this one.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-02 06:21:55 PST (-0800)
Some of the photos on
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-02 06:12:52 PST (-0800)

www.funghiepaesaggi.net

match quite well.

B. luridus I do not think, pore color is so out of way.
B. rubrosanguineus I know very well from alpine habitats in Austria and is not found at lower elevations, at least here. I cannot imagine that it does grow in atlantic mediterranean areas like Portugal. But who knows? There have been so many species described from down there. My own experience with Southern European species tells me though that some mushrooms look indeed very different down there. I considered (besides the mentioned key) also Lannoy & Estades and this find is in sectio Inquinantes or series Luridus but I couldn’t think of any other species right now. Maybe I’m just stuck. I also considered Boletus comptus but it is not.

Both
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-02-02 06:02:44 PST (-0800)

luridus and rubrosanguineus look like better alternatives than permagnificus..shape of the stem, the colours

-if Boris Assyov isn’t completely mistaken:

http://boletales.com/genera/boletus/b-permagnificus/

I see somewhat degraded my ID.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-02 05:53:50 PST (-0800)

What does speak against it?

I would call this
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-02 02:50:18 PST (-0800)

Boletus permagnificus

Maybe,
By: zaca
2013-02-02 02:18:45 PST (-0800)

a bit more intense than usual. However, according to boletales.com:
Boletus luridus differs from all the other European boletes on the account of the vinaceous, red or orange red flesh under the tubes when these are removed.”

Another
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2013-02-02 02:12:01 PST (-0800)

rubrosanguineus?

Very strange color
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2013-02-01 14:30:45 PST (-0800)

especially in the pores!

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