Observation 83126: Cortinarius subgenus Telamonia (Fr.) Trog
When: 2011-11-19
Herbarium specimen reported

Notes: The caps on these were up to 9.3 cm across and they appeared dry or perhaps slightly moist in the damp conditions.
The spores were ~ 9.0-10.2(11.0) X 6.5-7.0(8.0) microns and very sl. rough.

KOH on the cap turned brown.

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Same thing.
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2013-11-13 00:16:14 CST (-0500)

Same thing this one: http://mushroomobserver.org/151228

As I said, I also collected this one in Oregon. Since you are curious, will know soon enough.

Thank you Ron.

Dimitar
Dimitar, OK, I’ve got part of this collection
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2013-11-12 22:47:23 CST (-0500)

and will send it over to you.
I guess this may put in doubt this collection from Nov 3 in Oregon?
The spores were also in the same size range.
http://mushroomobserver.org/151228

Alan, I didn’t mean to imply that my scope set up was somehow off…just that all my C. laniger observations have basically the same spore measurements, thus putting them all in question.
I think you guys jumped the gun on this one
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2013-11-12 21:25:31 CST (-0500)

This is not the C. laniger s.s. that we know well from our area. In fact I collected a bunch of this same thing in Oregon last weeks and will get some data. I discussed this one with the Finish guys, they did some analysis too, I forget now what they said. Ron, if you have this collection, send it along for treatment and then we’ll know for sure.

Dimitar
Spore discrepancy
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-11-12 19:21:24 CST (-0500)

it may be that the variation is due to the fact that I think C. laniger, C. bivelus and C. solis-occasus are sort of all treated together on Dimitar’s website and may be mixed in with each other (not saying I know that for sure).

The spores don’t quite look the same
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2013-11-12 18:50:15 CST (-0500)

I don’t see how your scope setup could stretch spores wider. I think these spores really are wider than the ones pictured on the mushroomhobby page.

Christian, they do look like Cortinarius laniger
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2013-11-12 18:39:41 CST (-0500)
and the spore measurements agree with my other observations of that species. However, my measurements are always a little larger(wider) than those reported in Mushroom Hobby and other references. But to be consistent, I’ll go with it for the time being.
Similar to these
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2013-11-12 18:17:51 CST (-0500)
Did not get any strong odor from these
By: Ron Pastorino (Ronpast)
2011-11-25 22:30:46 CST (-0500)
/bivelus clade
By: Dimitar Bojantchev (dimitar)
2011-11-25 22:07:22 CST (-0500)

Thi one is in the C. bivelus clade — did it have a strong raphanoid odor? Let me kcheck my notes, as far as the spores are concerned. There were some intricacies.

D.

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