Observation 83673: Pholiotina smithii (Watling) Enderle 1999
When: 2011-11-29
No herbarium specimen

Notes: bluing noticed shortly after picking.

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Cheilocystidia at 800X
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thank you
By: maynardjameskeenan
2012-01-11 16:21:37 CST (-0500)

excellent explanation! thank you for clearing that up for me and thank you for putting in term that I would understand.

Pholiotina
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2012-01-11 16:06:02 CST (-0500)

This is a Pholiotina because it doesn’t have lecytiform cheilocystidia. True Conocybe all have only this type of cheilocystidia at the gill edge, which you can see here:

http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/16211
http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/101051

Pholiotina for some authors is only a section of Conocybe, for other sources it is a separate genus. The names here are both for the one species, they are synonyms. This was just published by Watling as a Conocybe, but then moved to Pholiotina by Enderle in 1999. Which you can see in the species names.

Why Pholiotina smithii?
By: maynardjameskeenan
2012-01-11 15:52:44 CST (-0500)

I have been thinking about why you (Alan) call them pholiotina smithii? I never knew that such a thing existed. Are you saying that pholiotina smithii is synonymous with conocybe smithii or that the mushroom would fit better into the genus pholiotina than conocybe? I am scratching my head and trying to figure this out but I am by no means an expert on mushrooms and any insight would be much appreciated, again thank you for all of your help.

What is the spore size?
By: maynardjameskeenan
2011-11-29 17:07:23 CST (-0500)

You know that I do not own a microscope, I did send a few specimens to the person that I sent the suspected gymnopilus aeruginosus. He is going to look at both under his scope and if I remember correctly he has an oil immersion lens so hopefully he can get some measurements. I am just waiting to hear back from him. I will keep everyone updated When I find out more about them.

What is the spore size?
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2011-11-29 17:01:15 CST (-0500)

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