Observation 8403: Cortinarius (Pers.) Gray
When: 2008-05-04
No herbarium specimen

Notes: I thought I had posted this fungi before, but have had a look and cant find it. The cap was sticky and the gills were close. No smell to speak of and the fungi was in an open area of bush but with filtered light.The cap was about 30mm across and the stem about45mm in height.

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Proposed Names

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Recognized by sight: Seems to be rusty cortina remnants on the stem in pic 3
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Recognized by sight
Used references: Field Guide to Australian Fungi, B. Fuhrer.

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I agree that it looks like a cort, obviously one of the viscid ones; the bulbous base doesn’t fit
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2008-11-23 19:23:12 PST (-0800)

laccaria either. definite rusty brown spore drop on possible cortina remnants.
corts are a bitch to ID tho, except maybe for Dimi…

I will send him a note about this one; he should be able to get it to a section, at least (and maybe more of us will, too, once he schedules that Cort workshop for us!).

Not Laccaria
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2008-07-15 15:36:58 PDT (-0700)

Take a look at the other photos of Laccaria on this site, and there are a few on Laccaria proxima. There are few here, and a few mine, of Laccaria laccata that might be Laccaria proxima also. But each of these the cap is not sticky, but dry. If you put water on a Laccaria cap, it just soaks right in, and the cap stays fairly dry, it doesn’t get sticky/slimy.

For the most point, Laccaria will have pink/purple/brownish gills, which isn’t what you have here. But also for the most part Laccaria has a fibrous stipe which is fairly distinctive, which you don’t seem to have here.

But is all cases for little brown jobs you don’t know well, you need a spore print to even get started. All families of ‘shrooms have their little brown jobs, but with a spore print you can at least sort them to family and get started. With lots of color and distinctive features you could get away without one, but trying to get an id on a little brown job you don’t know, that is where you have to start.

Just a warning, trying to id a little brown job is not really a beginner thing to try…

Oh, a note on spore color, getting a spore print can be a pain, and like for me, I only get a spore print for very few of the stuff I find. You can get the spore color for 90% of cases by comparing the gill color in the young (young!) caps, and compare to old caps, any change in color for most cases will be the spore color. But this is only true for 80-90% of cases, and there are lot (lots!) of cases where this isn’t true, but this is how most people get a rough spore color. Past that you look for spore drops on material under the cap, on the top of the stipe, on the edge of the cap and such.

But when I find a LBJ that I haven’t seen before, I get a spore print to even get started. After doing that a few times for a new species/genus you get enough experience that you don’t have to keep doing it.

Sort of ?

Douglas, As always you are willing to comment. I appreciate this as I now know some of the problems confronting you in making a decision. I have a reference that looks like this , but the cap in my refernce is not viscid. ; Laccaria proxima???

Little brown job…
By: Douglas Smith (douglas)
2008-07-15 12:43:45 PDT (-0700)

Wow – this could be anything, another LBJ. But it looks mostly like a Tricholoma, but could be a number of other things…

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