Observation 87393: Boletus carminiporus Bessette, Both & Dunaway
When: 2011-07-17
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Velvety red cap, reticulation on stipe, red pore surface. Non-staining.

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Recognized by sight
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Used references: Bessette & Roody

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Thanks everyone
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2012-02-07 04:02:07 PST (-0800)

for your comments. Thanks, Noah and Christian for your clarifications. I have attempted to add the details to the appropriate species description page. Let me know (or change or delete the comments) if you feel you are misquoted or that the comment is out of context.

Walt- are you suggesting that I experiment with B. carminiporus this coming July? It sure looks good, but I expect I would chicken-out at the last minute.

It seems likely
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2012-02-06 21:41:18 PST (-0800)

that many mushrooms have caused a few people problems and then they get labelled as poisonous. Like Noah the only red pored bolete I have eaten is B. frostii. Bill Roody has eaten B. vermiculosoides without any problems. Maybe a bit more experimentation is in order. On the other hand “edible” mushrooms such as Pleurocybella porrigens and Tricholoma equestre have killed people. Also selling questionable species to a restaurant sounds like litigation waiting to happen.

Disagree with that last point
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2012-02-06 19:45:06 PST (-0800)

I don’t think B. amygdalinus is toxic – that seems also to be a matter of copy-paste. David A has mentioned it as edible, and I have tried a small amount with no problem.

B. eastwoodiae is definitely seriously toxic for most people.

I’m not joking,
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2012-02-06 19:31:49 PST (-0800)

most have been listed as poisonous, and copied and pasted from one guide to the next.
The ONLY red pored bolete I have eaten from eastern NA has been B. frostii so I’m not saying this with first hand experience, but I have been hearing rumblings that people are eating them with no problems and I know somebody who sells B. subvelutipes to Boston area restaurants.

Boletes that have been causing problems in the northeast are Boletus huronensis (which is listed as edible in Bessette, Roody, Bessette) huronensis is a bad one, causing bad gastronomical distress. One person I know keyed it out to “Butter Bolete” using Arora’s MD (which it keys really nicely too) and was throwing up for almost 30 hours, another case I know about was somebody who thought it was edulis and took a quarter size bite raw and had over 12 hours of diarrhea and vomiting. This being said, some people can and do eat this mushroom.
Tylopilus eximius is poisonous for about 25-40% of the people who eat it, but others really enjoy it. And every once in a while I hear reports of people getting sick from eating stuff in the bicolor group and sensibilis which might make about 5% of the people who eat it sick, a number that is smaller than those that eat Honey Mushrooms around me. And a few people have problems with Suillus.

It’s a different story on the west coast, Boletus pulcherrimus and related kin are really toxic (it has killed somebody). B. amygdalinus and eastwoodiae seem to have standard GI toxins.

Ole Ironguts
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2012-02-06 07:17:00 PST (-0800)

Charles McIlvaine claimed to have eaten many “toxic” boletes.

I have not eaten any red-pored boletes.
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2012-02-06 04:48:20 PST (-0800)

I routinely run across groups of recent Russian immigrants mushroom hunting in the Poconos. Typically, I see a few subvelutipes in the basket. The first time I saw this I mentioned that the manuals all list this type as poisonous. The response I got was, “Boil them, and then they are good.”

I am thinking…,
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2012-02-06 04:18:52 PST (-0800)

that you are joking Noah! …and what if someone goes out and follows your advice? Have you ever eaten a red pored Bolete? How would you ID this one?

just something to thnk about:
By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2012-02-05 21:03:34 PST (-0800)

Most of the red pored boletes listed as “Poisonous” in the northeast are edible. I hear that subvelutipes is really good…

I just checked the Big Bolete Book…
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2012-02-05 19:43:13 PST (-0800)

Bessette/Roody/Bessette says that subvelutipes has a non reticulate stipe. Looks to me like this one is something more exotic that the uber-common subvelutipes.

Ah ha!
By: Martin Livezey (MLivezey)
2012-02-05 17:19:52 PST (-0800)

Believe me, I was ready to toss these in the frying pan if not for the red pore layer. At my level of education, that took precedence over the fact that the pore layer is thin and the context a non-staining pale yellow. I did not note an odor. Yeah – and how about the red reticulation?

All of the B. subvelutipes
By: Dave W (Dave W)
2012-02-05 14:26:00 PST (-0800)

that I’ve ever seen has context that stains quickly and prominently upon exposure. Also, the reticulate stipe seems unusual for subvelutipes.

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