Observation 93333: Amanita pantherina group sensu auct. amer.

When: 2012-04-25

Collection location: University of Washington, Seattle, Washington, USA [Click for map]

Who: BlueCanoe

No specimen available

Growing directly beneath deodar cedar (Cedrus deodara), with pitch pine (Pinus rigida) and red alder (Alnus rubra) nearby.

Species Lists


same basidiocarp as original observation, 1 day later
same basidiocarp as original observation, 1 day later
a different basidiocarp in the same area, 1 day after original observation

Proposed Names

56% (4)
Recognized by sight
50% (3)
Recognized by sight: We are quick to use other unpublished names with no data to back it up. But in this case we have a lot of data. Just about everything needed to publish this species is listed on Rod’s website; and in digital age, web publishing may be the future.

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Eye3 = Observer’s choice
Eyes3 = Current consensus


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New Code
By: Dan Molter (shroomydan)
2012-04-25 23:20:05 PDT (-0700)

Maybe the new code will help us sort out some of this nomenclatural mess. I’m really looking forward to its publication.

Changes to the International Code of Botanical Nomenclature are decided on every 6 years at Nomenclature Sections associated with International Botanical Congresses (IBC). The XVIII IBC was held in Melbourne, Australia; the Nomenclature Section met on 18-22 July 2011 and its decisions were accepted by the Congress at its plenary session on 30 July. Several important changes were made to the Code as a result of this meeting that will affect publication of new names. Two of these changes will come into effect on 1 January 2012, some months before the Melbourne Code is published. Electronic material published online in Portable Document Format (PDF) with an International Standard Serial Number (ISSN) or an International Standard Book Number (ISBN) will constitute effective publication, and the requirement for a Latin description or diagnosis for names of new taxa will be changed to a requirement for a description or diagnosis in either Latin or English. In addition, effective from 1 January 2013, new names of organisms treated as fungi must, in order to be validly published, include in the protologue (everything associated with a name at its valid publication) the citation of an identifier issued by a recognized repository (such as MycoBank). Draft text of the new articles dealing with electronic publication is provided and best practice is outlined.

To encourage dissemination of the changes made to the International Code of Nomenclature for algae, fungi, and plants, this article will be published in BMC Evolutionary Biology, Botanical Journal of the Linnean Society, Brittonia, Cladistics, MycoKeys, Mycotaxon, New Phytologist, North American Fungi, Novon, Opuscula Philolichenum, PhytoKeys, Phytoneuron, Phytotaxa, Plant Diversity and Resources, Systematic Botany, and Taxon.


Yes, Tim
By: Erlon (Herbert Baker)
2012-04-25 23:02:10 PDT (-0700)

The north American taxons are distinct within the pantherina clade.

It’s a refinement or clarification, if you will.

I refuse to use any nom. prov. names until they are at least published and peer reviewed. There are more then just a couple pantheroid species in north america. How can someone create a new species concept when they don’t even fully grasp the entities that are here and have been named already?

If you wanna create distinct species concepts with botanical latin names, great!, but publish your work like every other mycologist in the world has to!

If not, it gives us all free reign start creating our own nom. prov. names here at mushroomobserver, and won’t that be fun?

@ A. virosa, how do you distinguish this entity as Amanita ameripanthera and seperate it from the other named and un-named north American entities within the clade, just by looking at the picture?

But then isn’t it both?
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-04-25 22:51:57 PDT (-0700)

This species would then fall under both categories.

By: Erlon (Herbert Baker)
2012-04-25 22:25:04 PDT (-0700)

‘Amanita pantherina sensu auct. amer. group’, represents all of the unknown “north American” pantheroid entities . It’s a unique distinction.

‘Amanita pantherina group’ is a broader term, that encompasses all pantheroid’s worldwide.

It’s an easy way to divide these geographically distinct organisms in type, until they are formally named/sorted out.

It’s always your best wishes, that keep me going.

By: Noah Siegel (Noah)
2012-04-25 22:12:13 PDT (-0700)

Amanita pantherina group is no longer good enough???
You now want to call it Amanita pantherina sensu auct. amer. group… sigh

By: BlueCanoe
2012-04-25 17:29:56 PDT (-0700)

I only took this one photo. I’ll try to get back to this spot in the next few days and take a better photo of the stipe and bulb.

Any more pictures?
By: AmatoxinApocalypse (AmatoxinApocalypse)
2012-04-25 17:19:13 PDT (-0700)

Do you have anymore pictures of this Amanita sp?

It would be great to see some macro shots of the bulb/base of the stipe.

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