Observation 95497: Amanita sect. Vaginatae sensu Zhu L. Yang

When: 2012-05-25

Collection location: Cathi’s old house, Shoreline, Washington, USA [Click for map]

Who: Tim Sage (T. Sage)

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Spores look like they have a Q around 1.2
By: R. E. Tulloss (ret)
2012-06-02 03:37:04 WAT (+0100)


No staining
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-30 03:51:22 WAT (+0100)

Even where cut, days later.

after all this handling…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-05-30 03:42:40 WAT (+0100)

it still shows no red or yellow staining. it can’t be protecta.

it does look like one of the grisettes with a friable UV though, so at this point, “cecilea group” is our best bet.

Undescribed sp?

No gray gill edges
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-30 03:36:07 WAT (+0100)

As well as no gray in the cap, sunlight or not. This cap is brassy brown.

Thanks for the input, I’ll look further!

A. protecta
By: Darvin DeShazer (darv)
2012-05-30 03:29:29 WAT (+0100)

Still seems to fit Amanita protecta. The color of the cap could be biased by sunlight.

By: vjp
2012-05-30 02:17:46 WAT (+0100)

intelligent to add, but, nice pictures and write up!

Anyone know of anything in the PNW
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-30 01:52:26 WAT (+0100)

This could be aside from A. cecilae group?

Any further input?
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-29 18:51:47 WAT (+0100)

Anything else to scope that could help put a name on this guy?

Spore photo added, more to come
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-28 21:36:35 WAT (+0100)

Quick spore shot at 400x, will do more work later.

Spores are round
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-28 18:40:49 WAT (+0100)

Will post photos and more info later.

Amanitas from same location:
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-27 19:16:42 WAT (+0100)

Here are some Amanita’s from the same spot (within five feet), in the past



Is there a good microscopic way….
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-27 19:01:43 WAT (+0100)

To determine at least which section this belongs to? I can only go to 400×.

By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-05-27 18:48:25 WAT (+0100)

yeah, OK, could just be UV pulled up the stipe, mimicing an annulus.

don’t think that it’s a protecta, though, although prob. something in that group. protecta should redden in all parts with age, and i have never seen a protecta with a tawny cap like this one. the dark stipe ornamentation fits, though.

striate margin is not very dramatic, but hey, variability happens.

I will look more closey at it later
By: Tim Sage (T. Sage)
2012-05-26 21:02:08 WAT (+0100)

And throw it under the scope as well. Thanks for your input.

I don’t
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2012-05-26 20:26:28 WAT (+0100)

see this as a true annulus, merely remnants of a universal veil. If you google and check other pictures of ceciliae, you’ll find it typical for the species (or species group?).
- and if it had been an annulus, it doesn’t turn grey in A. pantherina, which also should have a persistent volva with a sharp margin.

It bothers me though, that the cap margin isn’t as striate as expected..

By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-05-26 18:13:39 WAT (+0100)

then it can’t be ceciliae group, although just looking at the very first photo I thought the same thing as you, Irene.

with that annulus though, just a pretty beat up panther type. even panthers, at least here in NA, can have striate cap margins.

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