Observation 97683: Agaricus arvensis Schaeff.
When: 2012-06-18
Collection location: Altenahr, Germany [Click for map]
No herbarium specimen

Notes: Agaricus. Very lage. Some specimen up to 30cm.

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Gills greyish
By: deuteragenie
2012-06-19 15:20:01 CDT (-0400)

Gills being greyish rather than pink for young specimens. SHouldn’t it be arvenses ? But then, they were many very large specimens, so what’s wrong ?

One more pic
By: deuteragenie
2012-06-19 15:12:12 CDT (-0400)

One more pic uploaded, from profile and showing size (some specimens were even bigger !)

Edible.

Thx!
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2012-06-19 14:58:21 CDT (-0400)

Now I am tending to arvensis group again. Cogwheel ring, yellow staining, rather thin stalk. Could be arvensis itself.
A. macrosporus as I know it has a stout stem as has urinascens.

Additional pics uploaded
By: deuteragenie
2012-06-19 14:56:17 CDT (-0400)

Young specimen pics uploaded.
! two days in fridge…

more photos would have helped with this ID…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-06-19 14:02:53 CDT (-0400)

next time, please show the entire mushroom!

Thanks for those “best guesses” Irene.

Here’s link to A. macrosporus (A. urinascens) on Rogers Mushrooms:

http://www.rogersmushrooms.com/...

Does the name “urinascens” come from the fact that w/age the mushroom smells like ammonia???

Here’s a link to an A. macrocarpus page:

http://www.mushroomslook.com/p/113/agaricus-macrocarpus

In addition to having smaller spores (need a scope to tell), the mature cap edge of macrocarpus is entire, not toothed like in macrosporus.

Not many Agaricus
By: Irene Andersson (irenea)
2012-06-19 13:44:57 CDT (-0400)

are reaching that size – urinascens(macrosporus) or macrocarpus. They can be told apart by the spore size..

Okay
By: Johannes Harnisch (Johann Harnisch)
2012-06-19 13:39:54 CDT (-0400)

I am not very familiar with A. arvensis

Surely no arvensis.
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2012-06-19 13:33:23 CDT (-0400)

But if in this group the ring should be like a cogwheel ornamentation.
It is too slender for arvensis. And the color too does not fit.

prob. not arvensis…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2012-06-19 13:32:26 CDT (-0400)

which would be showing a lot more yellow by now, and has a fennel or almond odor.
not familiar with German Agaricus sp.; can you smell phenol?

Might be Agaricus arvensis
By: Johannes Harnisch (Johann Harnisch)
2012-06-19 13:27:01 CDT (-0400)

but what did the underside of the ring look like?
did it have patches like this http://mushroomobserver.org/image/show_image/74705?obs=32212&q=Kr3q

see also these Observations http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/index_observation?q=Kr3q

Flesh
By: deuteragenie
2012-06-19 13:17:33 CDT (-0400)

Flesh discolor yellow, but only very slightly

did the flesh discolor yellow or any other color?
By: Johannes Harnisch (Johann Harnisch)
2012-06-19 12:58:14 CDT (-0400)
Gills
By: deuteragenie
2012-06-19 12:53:46 CDT (-0400)

Gills: first greyish, then salmon then dark brown for oldest specimen
Taste is good, but less strong than typical “champignon de Paris”

What color are the gills?
By: Johannes Harnisch (Johann Harnisch)
2012-06-19 11:01:17 CDT (-0400)
Do you have another photo?
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2012-06-19 03:21:22 CDT (-0400)

More info
By: deuteragenie
2012-06-19 03:02:51 CDT (-0400)

Odor : mushroomy, but very light
Gills ivory, turning pink then dark brown
Flesh: stable, turning just a little bit yellow
Taste: not bad, but not very pronounced compared to shop sold “champignon de Paris”.

Once again, more info please!
By: Gerhard Koller (Gerhard)
2012-06-18 17:19:11 CDT (-0400)

Underside, ring, ODOR, change of color in flesh are the most important features for Agaricus.

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