Observation 98982: Coprinellus sect. Domestici (Singer) D.J. Schafer ined.
When: 2012-07-02
No herbarium specimen

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-2% (2)
Recognized by sight: Veil breaking up into patches rather then small, woolly flocks, orange ozonium.
Used references: http://www.grzyby.pl/...

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By: Byrain
2013-03-20 16:33:11 CDT (-0400)

If anyone can dry this species before it turns into inky goo, I would be happy to try to get worthwhile microscopic info from it. Or any other inky caps that require microscopy. :)

@ Mycowalt, yea, I haven’t seen the orange ozonium in any pictures of C. bipellis either, but I’m not sure there are any confirmed pictures of that species either. Uljé did mention it in the description though and for all the other species listed in subsection Domestici excluding C. flocculosus. I think we probably share some species with Europe as this is already the case with some other Psathyrellaceae, but I have noticed that North America seems to have more Psathyrellaceae species then Europe does.

Byrain
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2013-03-20 13:48:13 CDT (-0400)

You are not missing anything. I think the three species proposed are all European or at least originally described by European mycologists. I have not noticed the orange mycelium in pictures of C.bipellis. The other two names are most often used for species looking like this. At present it is necessary to look at spore size and microscopic features. Future DNA work may find that they are all the same or that there are more species yet to be described. What I see and what Dan photographed is occasional in Ohio on Liriodendron tulipifera and other broadleaf logs with the exposed ozonium always present. A naturalist once asked me to identify that “orange moss” on logs. I guess I still can’t.

Ah
By: Byrain
2013-03-20 01:20:08 CDT (-0400)

I didn’t realize there are two different species going under the same name…

Using the American descriptions I would agree that its a reasonable guess, but am I correct in thinking the original Coprinellus radians is an European concept? So I’m not exactly sure why we should apply that name to a different species in North America and has anyone compared it with C. bipellis? Maybe I am misunderstanding something?

I agree
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2013-03-20 00:41:51 CDT (-0400)

but in the sense of American authors Coprinellus radians is a reasonable guess.

http://www.messiah.edu/...

http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observation_search?pattern=Coprinellus+radians

Mycowalt
By: Byrain
2013-03-19 16:01:56 CDT (-0400)

I sincerely doubt this is the same C. radians as this. http://www.grzyby.pl/...

Which doesn’t have a veil breaking up into big patches.

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