When: 2013-08-31

Collection location: Hebron, Connecticut, USA [Click for map]

Who: John Plischke (John Plischke)

No specimen available


Proposed Names

32% (5)
Recognized by sight
39% (4)
Recognized by sight: junonius and spectabilis are both nomen dubium as far as I am concerned.

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By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-11-03 06:18:27 AEDT (+1100)

I needed that laugh, thanks.

By: John Plischke (John Plischke)
2013-11-03 06:14:15 AEDT (+1100)

I was going to bring a small piece home with me to scope but it did not work out that time. The person who collected them did not care about eating them for its common reported properties. Then a story was told about eating 6 to 8 of them in tea for an 8 hour Viagra like effect and that was it, they were gone. Don’t know how reliable the story was but they gave some detail about a source that I have not checked into yet. Hopefully next year I will get to scope some. I have been collecting the literature on them and will get some sequencing done on any I find locally next year. As a good not I did get a nice collection of Unaborted Entolomas with what looks like jelly fungi growing on its gills that I posted on mo a few days ago. I going to work on them.

By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-11-03 05:47:26 AEDT (+1100)

Did it get collected at all this year? To date, I think the only microscopic analysis of G. validipes on record is from the original description(from a single collection). I would love to get a collection to the Field museum, I’m sure you know Richard would be enthused to examine a collection as well…

Odor and taste
By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2013-11-03 05:21:57 AEDT (+1100)

Are fragrant and bitter for Gymnopilus luteus and sometimes fragrant and always bitter for G. spectabilis (G.junonius). Size matters here as well. The two large ones are G.validipes and G. junonius. My experience with what I call G.validipes is that it is late in the season. It is nearly always clustered and often fruits from buried wood. It is mildly bitter and lacks the almond extract odor. It was very common this year…

By: Rocky Houghtby
2013-11-03 05:04:33 AEDT (+1100)

Instead of odor why don’t we talk about how dark the pileus pigmentation is, or how fibrillose the pileus is vs. being fibrillose-squamulose to aerolate. How about the thin uneven margin or the particularly membranous partial veil. These characteristics aren’t really great evidence for spectabilis or validipes, are they?

I agree that this collection seems morphologically unique compared to most Gymnopilus labeled as “junonius” or “spectabilis”. However, I don’t see anything that strongly discounts species variability as the reason for the unique morphology seen here.

Is there really no voucher specimen, John?

By: John Plischke (John Plischke)
2013-11-03 03:54:31 AEDT (+1100)

My best guess would be Gymnopilus validipes. But I have only seen it once before and am less certain. It did have the strong green staining and no odor. I usually smell them because I think the odor has a lot to do with splitting them up and some smell so good and reminds me of a little like cherry vanilla but that’s not it but some do smell very good.

By: walt sturgeon (Mycowalt)
2013-11-03 00:22:34 AEDT (+1100)

The lack of an odor and the strong green staining are unusual for G.junonius.

Large, no odor
By: John Plischke (John Plischke)
2013-11-02 10:06:41 AEDT (+1100)

Large mushrooms, caps over 6 inches wide, no odor, very strong greenish blue bruising, on soil attached to maple tree roots.