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I’m not saying that i’m sure of the name i’m proposing
By: Davide Puddu (Davide Puddu)
2015-12-27 19:53:54 CET (+0100)

I’m just proposing names that could be used to get an idea based on the european concepts I HAVE. I didn t change the Leptonia label made by Christian here as you can see.
At this point let me doubt you did undestand how the site works.
I cannot be sure even with the Entoloma i find in Sardinia without microscopy but when a species that is described as totally black with heteromorphous edge of the gills black also growing from the ground, becomes in your observations totally blue with blue edge of the gills and growing on Alnus wood i think to have the right of have a doubt.What i’m surprised to hear here is your answer to a simple vote and few comments on your observation , i didn’t even change your label or propose another species.

I should have kept my mouth shut
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-12-27 19:15:00 CET (+0100)

This is not our MO Observation and it’s up to (or should be up to) Christian how he will label his MO Observations. Largent 1994 monograph is old, but still it is the only ccomperhansive treatment of our Entoloma s.l. in the western parts of North America. Otherwise it’s great that you can identify our NA entolomatoid mushrooms without seeing specimens or investigating their microscopic features.

???
By: Davide Puddu (Davide Puddu)
2015-12-27 16:53:23 CET (+0100)

I just proposed a species as a “could be”, i didn’t change consensus at all.
I’ll not comment on your observations surely after this,Adolf. Don’t worry.Sorry about citing an article made by noordeloos in 2013 in one of your observation. that probably was offensive to you for reasons i don’t understand at all.20 years old books probably are better.

Adolf
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2015-12-27 16:33:00 CET (+0100)

You have no right to tell others how to use this site.

Serious glitch in MO
By: Oluna & Adolf Ceska (aceska@telus.net)
2015-12-27 05:11:21 CET (+0100)

Davide, if you have a suggestion of a different ID, make it as a Comment and don’t hide yourself behind the Consensus! Largent (1994) mentions both Entoloma mougeotii, (page 100 & 129) and Entoloma nigroviolaceum (page 111 & 117) – both under Leptonia – and according to him, both of them are doubtful in the (western) North America. Identification by Consensus does not work for those MO observations that are supported by herbarium specimens and only the User who collected the specimen (or a curator of the herbarium where the specimen is deposited) should be allowed to change the name on the label. I am sure that Christian (and other MO users, including ourselves) greatly appreciate your suggestions, but the “fluidity” of MO names worries us. Please, make your suggestions as a Comment and let on the original user to decide whether or not the MO Observation name should be changed.
For Largent 1994 see:
Largent, D. L. (1994). Entolomatoid fungi of the Pacific Northwest and Alaska. Eureka: Mad River Press.

Entoloma ,maybe E.mougeotii
By: Davide Puddu (Davide Puddu)
2015-12-27 04:14:49 CET (+0100)

This doesn’t apply to Leptonia anymore. Genus Entoloma now has 2 clades at level of subgenus : Leptonia (euchroum etc.) and Inocephalus-Cyanula (it belongs in here because if i’m not wrong this looks like a Cyanula).
Try E.mougeotii and E.nigroviolaceum
Ciao

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