When: 2008-01-26

Collection location: Salt Point State Park, Sonoma Co., California, USA [Click for map]

Who: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)

Specimen available

This one also caught my eye. 12 cm tall, growing on the ground, in a very wet, moss covered area, next to the base of a doug fir.
Seemed cort-like at first glance in situ, but cap is too brittle and hygrophanous. “Cigar-brown” gills and spores. Stipe fairly thick, uniform. Gills attached. Umbonate cap. It stumped the stars at Pt. Reyes yesterday for the Fair. Most wanted to make it into a psathyrella, but it does NOT have black spores.

Any ideas? It is on my dryer.


Proposed Names

31% (2)
Recognized by sight
-64% (5)
Recognized by sight: Those look like old specimens.
Used references: Lincoff, 762
“Spore print white to pale violet”
32% (4)
Recognized by sight
31% (3)
Recognized by sight: Maybe what is referred to as P. spadicea, but differs from Smith’s description. Smith does not list California as its range, and notes that it is on or around Populus, whereas this species seems to always be near or on Conifers or coniferous wood.
50% (4)
Recognized by sight: to allow for the differences in our CA version with conifers.
60% (2)
Recognized by sight

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Psath Grrl Speaks!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2017-06-09 09:58:47 CDT (-0500)

Hello Erin, So nice to see your voice back on MO. So, what makes this a different genus, anyway?! I recognize the weirdness of this big ole Psath that I discovered
at SP that winter, but what secrets can you reveal?

great minds…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2011-03-12 10:19:34 CST (-0600)


By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-03-12 10:06:07 CST (-0600)

Erin and I posted the same candidate within 40 seconds of each other…

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2011-03-12 10:04:28 CST (-0600)

Nice one.

A candidate
By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2011-03-12 10:01:56 CST (-0600)
By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2011-03-12 10:01:01 CST (-0600)

This looks related to P. spadicea. I now recognize this species in the field, but I do not have a good name for it. They are microscopically distinct from the described P. spadicea; as well, their habitat differs.

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2008-01-29 15:11:29 CST (-0600)

I was looking at some different leads like Naucoria, Simocybe, Rozites, but found no good matches. I couldn’t find a good match for Psathyrella either, but with species variation, I would agree with what Douglas originally asserted- that it is most likely a Psathyrella sp..

Sooooo not a psath expert…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2008-01-29 09:59:59 CST (-0600)

I was implying that. I sit corrected. Psaths have black spores like russulas have white, eh? Every day contains a learning experience. Thanks for bringing me up to speed.

By: Erin Page Blanchard (CureCat)
2008-01-29 01:49:49 CST (-0600)

“Most wanted to make it into a psathyrella,
but it does NOT have black spores.”
I’m not sure if you are implying that Psathyrella all have black spores.. But just in case, spore colour for species within Psathyrella ranges from brown-black. So they could certainly still be Psathyrella, however the colour of the gills and colour and texture of the stipe makes me think otherwise. Then again, I’ve been surprised to find some species of Psathyrella with unusual colour and a not so brittle stipe.
Upon reviewing photos of Kuehneromyces, I realized my memory was very fuzzy. Or perhaps my ID eye has become more scrutinizing, because Kuehneromyces looks nothing like Psathyrella to me anymore, haha.
Spore are definitely chocolate brown.
I’m working on an ID. Let you know if I find anything.