Name: Helvella vespertina N.H. Nguyen & Vellinga
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Rank: Species

Status: Accepted

Name: Helvella vespertina

Author: N.H. Nguyen & Vellinga

Citation: Mycologia 105(5): 1281 (2013)


Domain: Eukarya

Kingdom: Fungi

Phylum: Ascomycota

Class: Pezizomycetes

Order: Pezizales

Family: Helvellaceae

Genus: Helvella

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A member of the Helvella lacunosa group
A western North American species formerly referred to as Helvella lacunosa. See, e.g., Arora, Mushrooms Demystified (Ten Speed Press 2d ed. 1986); Trudell & Ammirati, Mushrooms of the Pacific Northwest (Timber Press 2009).
The latest thought is that H. lacunosa is a species complex and that the complex has two common species in western North America: Helvella vespertina and Helvella dryophila. See Nhu Nguyen, Fidel Landeros, Roberto Garibay-Orijel, Karen Hansen and Else C. Vellinga. 2013. The Helvella lacunosa species complex in western North America: cryptic species, misapplied names and parasites. Mycologia 105(5): 1275–1286. DOI: 10.3852/12-391; see generally Michael Beug, Alan E. Bessette, Arleen R. Bessette, Ascomycete Fungi of North America: A Mushroom Reference Guide, 170 (Univ. of Texas Press 2014).

Brief Description:

One of the “elfin saddles”. Typically 7-20 cm high. Cap: gray to black, saddle-shaped or lobed. Stem: grey to black fluted, with pits.2 8 13

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If found under oak
By: Alan Rockefeller (Alan Rockefeller)
2019-03-07 02:11:02 CST (-0500)

It’s probably Helvella dryophila.

Helvella vespertina
By: Mungus (Jon lambert)
2019-03-06 13:55:16 CST (-0500)

I found quite a large patch few these in Hollister under oak. North slope of golf course. I didn’t 100% identify as edible. Thanks for the clarification.

Now that the paper is out the name is good.
By: P. Hill (phill)
2013-12-14 20:31:10 CST (-0500)
“The Helvella lacunosa species complex in western North America: cryptic species, misapplied names and parasites. Nguyen NH, Landeros F, Garibay-Orijel R, Hansen K, Vellinga EC. Mycologia. 2013 Sep-Oct;105(5):1275-86. doi: 10.3852/12-391. Epub 2013 May 24.”

(I’m just putting this here, so others reading this thread know the paper did come out with the names Helvella vespertina and Helvella dryophila.

not accepted
By: else
2012-04-17 12:48:36 CDT (-0400)

so it is better to hold off, we could come up with other names for it, or decide to lay the whole project to rest for the next x number of years!

By: Nhu Nguyen (xerantheum)
2012-04-17 12:21:23 CDT (-0400)

I agree with Christian. Until it’s in print, something could change.

By: Christian (Christian Schwarz)
2012-04-17 03:44:36 CDT (-0400)

I think it’d be better form to wait until the publication actually comes out, in the future.

By: Johannes Harnisch (Johann Harnisch)
2012-04-16 22:12:10 CDT (-0400)

“the western North American “lacunosa” resolved into two species, one occurring with conifers (pines and Douglas fir) and one occurring with hardwood, mostly oak. These two species will be described as Helvella vespertina and Helvella dryophila.”

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