Observation 13905: Amanita pseudobreckonii N. Siegel & C.F. Schwarz nom. prov.

When: 2008-11-08

Collection location: Salt Point State Park, Sonoma Co., California, USA [Click for map]

Who: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)

Specimen available

Notes:
note yellowish cap, odd flaring, membranous volva.

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1. exannulata cap
2. exannulata volva
3. exannulata and breckonii button
1. exannulata cap
2. exannulata volva
3. exannulata and breckonii button
1. exannulata cap
2. exannulata volva
3. exannulata and breckonii button

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wow!
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2019-02-19 04:35:44 CET (+0100)

that’s out of left field.

take a chill pill, Erlon. My opinions on this topic have evolved over decades of direct experience. You?

Rod proposed that name, originally:
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2019-02-18 23:31:20 CET (+0100)

Amanita gemmata var. exannulata, for this exannulate gemmatoid amanita.
It fit.

This is still an unpublished CA species, in search of a name. Darv was calling it breckonii for years, and finally brow beat me enough to start calling it that. then everyone called it that, then DB determined that it was no match for our type specimen of breckonii at SFSU, so back to go we went. N and C proposed pseudo-breckonii as a nom. prov only, but I’m still a fan of the exannulata moniker, which is a much truer portrayal of what this is, rather than a nod to what it isn’t.

gemmata var. exannulata is ..
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-03-15 00:01:50 CET (+0100)

a synonym for A. junquillea var. exannulata, published in 1935.
so yes, it is published. but no, it is not the exact sp. that we have here, probably.

again, the work has NOT been done, but that is a name that we have used for our western species that lacks a partial veil and has a UV that climbs up over the bulb (no neat rim), and a yellowish cap. pseudobreckonii is a “name come lately.” use it if you want. I have used both, but I prefer exannulata.

http://www.gbif.org/species/5240296

pseudobreckonii
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-03-14 23:49:06 CET (+0100)

isn’t published, either. I prefer the exannulata name.

once something gets officially published for this species, why, I’ll use that name. we’re not there yet.

amanita alone is not good enough. we know this species, it just doesn’t have a good published name, yet.

check Rod’s site …
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-03-14 20:22:31 CET (+0100)

he was the one to first propose this name to me, many many moons ago.

pseudobreckonii is not a real published name.
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2015-03-14 20:00:28 CET (+0100)

the term “pseudobreckonii” was coined because this clearly wasn’t breckonii.

the original name for this sp. was gemmata var. exannulata.

it was Darvin who first started convincing me to call these breckonii, which I only did so reluctantly.

we all agree these are not the true breckonii, which no one has really ever seen that is still alive.
dessicata exists, but that doesn’t tell us what the fresh fb looked like.

when this western species gets fully described, DNA analyzed and published, then we can run around and change all of the names to a new real name. until then, it’s just what you prefer to call it.

we really haven’t resolved…
By: Debbie Viess (amanitarita)
2009-12-29 16:25:15 CET (+0100)

just what these exannulate “gemmata” types with the flaring volvas really are.
at this point in time I feel most comfortable calling them exannulata, but this is probably just another western amanita in need of a new name.

Dimi did show that these are most likely NOT breckonii, by comparing some of my collections with the breckonii type specimens at SFSU herbariuum.

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